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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Both Desktop and Netinstall Installer Fails]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65288#p65288</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@ralph.ronnquist, thanks for taking the time and effort to explain why Ventoy causes/creates issues/problems/failures for _some_but_not_all_ folks!<br />(imhho, your post deserves a &quot;sticky&quot; somewhere it can be easily found)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2026 07:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Both Desktop and Netinstall Installer Fails]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65287#p65287</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well for my own use-case-scenario I have never had the desire to keep multiple OS&#039;es on my pocket-stick, I use R2U with a persistence partition and an extra data partition on the stick. That way I can update the system as needed and install where it&#039;s wanted.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2026 01:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Both Desktop and Netinstall Installer Fails]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65286#p65286</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The bad thing with Ventoy is that it does not hold the ISOs as block devices, which is what an ISO maker normally expects. It holds them as files. So the ISO maker must build their ISO with file browsing logic (to figure out which filesystem to browse, then browse that to find their ISO media as a file, then loopback mount that to be a block device) before their installer can use it.</p><p>In normal use, the ISO is present as a block device on the hardware. All that can be hard to understand when most computering seems like magic. But in short, the ISO maker has to tailor ther installer for use with Ventoy in a generic fashion, which is an amout of extra work for them.</p><p>It is also possible for a multi-ISO boot loader to keep ISOs as block devices. But that would require different hands-on for preparing it, and the multi-ISO boot loader developer would probably need to offer a special utility for that, since it does involve slightly more than copying a file into a filesystem.</p><p>Anyhow, clearly any multi-ISO program is good for those cases where it works.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ralph.ronnquist)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2026 21:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Both Desktop and Netinstall Installer Fails]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65285#p65285</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have never had any issues loading a Devuan ISO with Ventoy (just tested loading up a <em>Daedalus</em> live ISO on a Dell Latitude laptop before submitting this post). I&#039;m still surprised this is a recurring issue, according to threads like these.</p><p>I use Ventoy because it&#039;s more handy for carrying a bunch of distros and other OSes (like the BSDs) on a single USB flash drive than dedicating one (especially an optical disc such as a CD-R or a DVD-R) to a single ISO -- and it might still not work on your hardware, so you&#039;re screwed if what you used to burn it onto is not rewritable. The only actual argument I&#039;ve seen AGAINST using Ventoy is the concerns over the blobs, which you can read about <a href="https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/3224" rel="nofollow">here</a> for further clarification. Even still, it&#039;s not as bad as the fact that the CPU you&#039;re using likely has a proprietary backdoor that you can&#039;t do a single thing about...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (brocashelm)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2026 20:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Both Desktop and Netinstall Installer Fails]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65277#p65277</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve used Ventoy and the Live desktop iso on recent Lenovo laptops without issue recently.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (pixie)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2026 18:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Both Desktop and Netinstall Installer Fails]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65163#p65163</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>This thread may be of interest : <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65160#p65160" rel="nofollow">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65160#p65160</a></p><p>Using refracta2usb instead of ventoy.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>if you have a dvd-r(w) laying around, you could master the iso onto it; that works best in my experience, specially with excalibur.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>This is how I always do a netinstall.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 13:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Both Desktop and Netinstall Installer Fails]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65162#p65162</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Why not copy the installer ISO, e.g. netinstall onto a device, not as a file but fully onto the device, and then boot with that. </p><p>Next, if you come to a similar wifi issue, then use &quot;go back&quot; until you get the menu of tasks (which you also can get directly by choosing the &quot;expert install&quot; option). Then move forward using that. Feel free to come back for specific advice.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ralph.ronnquist)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 12:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Both Desktop and Netinstall Installer Fails]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65161#p65161</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve had no problems - did you check you had a good download?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Camtaf)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 08:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Both Desktop and Netinstall Installer Fails]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65155#p65155</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>you could find some info here if you want to use &quot;ventoy&quot;<br /><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=8124" rel="nofollow">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=8124</a><br />also would suggest you cpiöd do yourselves a favour and use an ethernet cable (atleast) for a more stable first-installation ~</p><p>good luck.</p><p>edit: if you have a dvd-r(w) laying around, yoiuu could master the iso onto it; that works best in my experience, specially with excalbiure. (am repeating myself)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (kapqa)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2026 18:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Both Desktop and Netinstall Installer Fails]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65154#p65154</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#039;m trying to install Devuan with MATE on a Dell M6800 laptop using Ventoy. Running the desktop installer halted at the very beginning, and gave me an error message that I had to install the kernel first, which is what I thought I was doing. So I moved to the netinstall iso. When the installer got to the point where I identified wifi as the preferred channel, it went off and then came back and stated that my wifi password was too short or too long. But it gave me no way to enter it! How can I install Devuan from Ventoy? Or ?? Thanks in advance.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Frogprince)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2026 17:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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