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			<title><![CDATA[Re: overlay-root]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64936#p64936</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Does bilibop use a lot of RAM?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>How many is too many? All hard disk writes are happen in RAM. You can use noatime, nodiratime options for FS. Then all logs, /var. /tmp are in the RAM. <br />By default tmpfs is limited by 1/2 of RAM and you can change this value. To give you an idea, I&#039;m using it even on very old laptop with 8 Gb RAM and no SWAP! But ... I prefer to keep only one browser with around 30 pages open and not 2 or 3 browser while watching video <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> on this machine.</p><p>32 Gb of RAM, no swap, default tmpfs everything works perfectly: couple of browsers, video and ... virtual machine with 8 GB of virtual RAM or small local LLM.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Devarch)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 18:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: overlay-root]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64483#p64483</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>pcalvert wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... bilibop use a lot of RAM?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No idea.<br />Had never heard of it before Devarch mentioned it.</p><p>Apparently (?) it is an alternative to [overlayroot].</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>bilibop Ubuntu manpage wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p><em><br />&quot;Instead of yet another new, living fast and dying young, Debian based distribution, bilibop has been designed as a set of few debian packages. bilibop-lockfs may also be installed on a laptop or on a public computer as an alternative to fsprotect or overlayroot, and bilibop-udev (or bilibop-rules) should also be installed on a LiveUSB.&quot;<br /></em></p></div></blockquote></div><p>[bilibop] Ubuntu <a href="https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/man7/bilibop.7.html" rel="nofollow">manpage</a>.</p><p>It can also be found in the Devuan repositories.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2026 11:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64483#p64483</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: overlay-root]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64482#p64482</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Does <em>bilibop</em> use a lot of RAM? I&#039;ve been planning to use it, but the thought just occurred to me that it might greatly increase the amount of RAM needed.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (pcalvert)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2026 11:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: overlay-root]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64473#p64473</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Devarch wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... using bilibop ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Now, <em>that</em> one I had to look up. 8^°</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Devarch wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... whole / is on overlayfs on top of tmpfs.<br />... fine with chimaera, daedalus, excalibur sysvinit ...<br />... software that I use works.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Good to know, especially when I have all but decided to remain on Daedalus past [oldoldstable] and the list of software I have in my box has not changed significantly since Devuan [jesse].<br />ie: archived, maybe two or more years from now.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Devarch wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... issue with reboot/shutdown - 30 seconds delay if luks ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Not my case.</p><p>Thank you very much for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2026 15:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64473#p64473</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: overlay-root]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64470#p64470</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Q: anyone using overlayroot?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Altoid, I&#039;m using bilibop from devuan/debian repository. The whole / is on overlayfs on top of tmpfs. Works fine with chimaera, daedalus, excalibur sysvinit and openrc, also with ceres dinit. All software that I use works. Some minor issues like virt-manager requests log file is simply solved by creating or copying empty log file on boot, vmware complains :&quot;no space&quot; - solved by one line in the config to ignore space check. There are no other issues as I remember.</p><p>There is also one issue with reboot/shutdown - 30 seconds delay if luks encryption is used together with overlayfs on top of tmpfs. Only ceres dinit (from what I&#039;ve tested) has no this issue.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Devarch)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 21:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: overlay-root]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64314#p64314</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><p>Sorry for the delay in answering, was away from my kb.<br />Or maybe the kb was away from me? 8^°</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... worked and I didn&#039;t notice a difference.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Good to know.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>rbit wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... use overlay-boot on several servers ...<br />... bit of trial-and-error getting things set up, but for the most part it&#039;s been working well.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Thank you for the detail but I fear it is all rather over my head.<br />But it is good to know it works as you intended which means that it will most probably work for me.</p><p>So, <span class="bbu">one</span> down. 8^)</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>rbit wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p> ... any particular question about overlay-boot?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The basic question for me would be if it will work for my (simple?) use case and most important, how to go about it.</p><p>To wit:</p><p>1.<br />Not decided yet but <em>most</em> probably will not be entering the Devuan Excalibur scene.<br />Reasons being how complicated it is getting (and <em>will</em> get) and the fact that (as mentioned) my box* works perfectly well with Daedalus.</p><p>That means I will not purchase any new core hardware (MB, PSU, etc.) save something wreaking havoc with my Sun U24.<br />Possible exceptions would be finding the odd SAS2/3 spare and matching controller, or a four socket PCI-E video card to replace the twin two socket FX580s for a decent price (liberating a PCI-E slot) or having to replace one or both of the SyncMaster 940n flanking a newer but also discontinued Dell P1914S.</p><p>*<br />TL;DR: all hardware that will run perfectly well with Devuan Daedalus (or even Chimaera) without a hitch - PBKAC being the obvious exception.</p><p>My idea (if feasible) is to run a Devuan Daedalus box in a highly protected space, isolated from the web for work/office crap.</p><p>And at the same time have web access by other means. eg: a VM running an up-to-date Devuan live ISO with some sort of sandboxed environment for banking, sharing downloads or video streaming (which I do quite a bit at these days).</p><p>My box hosts a headless Devuan Chimaera VM with a Pi-hole/Unbound DNS which could be moved to a RPi3B+ living in a drawer. It may then justify the time and money I spent on the bloody thing and in doing so, liberate memory (8Gb) and CPU (Intel Q9550) cycles for running the above setup.</p><p>That is about it.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 13:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: overlay-root]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64309#p64309</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I use overlay-boot on several servers now.&#160; A couple different configurations -- mainly using overlayfs, one is using a loop image file with drbd.&#160; In fact just this last weekend I updated my installation of overlay-boot -- it was a bit outdated.&#160; There&#039;s now a SHARE option that will bind-mount, which I&#039;ve also found helpful for my use case.&#160; In my overlay-boot configuration, the subhost&#039;s LOWER directory is a higher version of devuan than the hosting system (I created it with debootstrap --minbase and added things as needed).&#160; For example, on a chimaera host I run daedalus subhosts; on a daedalus host, I run excalibur subhosts.&#160; It&#039;s taken a bit of trial-and-error getting things set up, but for the most part it&#039;s been working well.<br />Did you have any particular question about overlay-boot?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rbit)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2026 21:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: overlay-root]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64302#p64302</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I had a build host for live isos that was set up that way, but things got moved around and now I just have a regular VM to work in. I think I let that virtual host go because I couldn&#039;t do vnc with it. Other than that, it worked and I didn&#039;t notice a difference.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2026 13:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[overlay-root]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64301#p64301</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><p>Aside from a post <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5603" rel="nofollow">post</a> by Ralph Ronnquist from early 2023, I have not seen or read about anyone using it.</p><p>Q: anyone using <span class="bbc">overlayroot</span>?</p><p>Asking because I will most probably not upgrade to Excalibur, Daedalus works perfectly well with my ca. 2007 hardware, just like it did with&#160; Jesse / ascii onwards.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2026 12:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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