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Re: More systemd is coming - what is the plan?

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Tue, 09 Jun 2026 22:30:10 +0000

A brilliant and oh so helpful observation . . . NOT . . .

Re: More systemd is coming - what is the plan?

dummy@example.com (Anonymous Goldfish) — Tue, 09 Jun 2026 21:59:54 +0000

you cant make this stuff up

Re: More systemd is coming - what is the plan?

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Tue, 09 Jun 2026 20:11:02 +0000

Have you ever considered creating such a solution and submitting it to Devuan for review?

PS . . . This discussion might be better suited to:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/devuan-dev.en.html

More systemd is coming - what is the plan?

dummy@example.com (SteveM) — Tue, 09 Jun 2026 19:40:18 +0000

A Microsoft employee recently decided that since Debian is now a systemd only distro that he could help everyone out by modifying one of the debhelper scripts to automatically inject a systemd package dependency even when one may not be needed.

https://salsa.debian.org/debian/debhelp … 9dd3a58b1c

So far we know that this has affected at least sudo (https://packages.debian.org/unstable/sudo), it now requires systemd, systemd-standalone-tmpfiles, or systemd-tmpfiles to be installed. Since Devuan provides a systemd-standalone-tmpfiles package maybe the solution is to install it on every system? Is there a better option?