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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63828#p63828</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>But ...<br />Have you searched for packages using *-devel?*<br />* maybe not enough Joe? 8^P</p></div></blockquote></div><p><img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /></p><p>Guilty as charged my friend! No I haven&#039;t, I blithely try to pretend there&#039;s no redhat in my system and ignore anything that says otherwise. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 14:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Indeed... but you&#039;re spoiling my fun <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 14:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63826#p63826</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="codebox"><pre><code>hplip-3.25.8.run --debug</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (swanson)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63824#p63824</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The list of packages this byzantine &quot;installer&quot; looks for (and tries to install, including tampering with sources.list to add unstable on some distros *barf*) can be found in installer/distros.dat after unpacking the .run file. <br />However, since it has no explicit entries for any version of &quot;devuan&quot; and the OP didn&#039;t bother to tell us which options were passed to the internal install script or provide the output in --debug mode (which likely would have told them exactly what it failed to find and why), I suppose we&#039;ll all have to guess.</p><p>So much for, and I reiterate with more emphasis:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Do not obtain software from anywhere other than Debian, not even from the software&#039;s author, <strong>unless you have the skills and the time</strong> to solve the resultant problems!</p></div></blockquote></div><p>@deepforest If you&#039;re going to install software from outside the repos, on a distro that upstream doesn&#039;t even claim to support (note <em>Debian</em> being &quot;present in supported distros&quot; does not mean it will detect <em>Devuan</em> successfully), you get to keep all the pieces. Even if you get this to install, it <em>will</em> louse up your system with untracked files in unusual locations, just as the wiki warns.</p><p>We might be inclined to <em>help</em>, but if you want to do unsupported, not-recommended, oft-warned-against things to your system, <em>you</em> need to put in more effort than &quot;Why do not want to install&quot; - starting with at least a cursory investigation of how the installer works and gathering useful debug output.<br />This is not Windows, we do not run executable installers from manufacturer websites. Installing software from the stable repositories is &quot;easy mode&quot;, running (or porting from) unstable, building from source, or using third-party scripts is &quot;expert mode&quot; and comes with the expectation that you are able and willing to put energy into solving your own problems.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>deepforest wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>do not be lazy, run hplip script</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Riiight, so, people not wanting to do your homework for you or run unknown install scripts for software they don&#039;t need is &quot;lazy&quot;... Guess I&#039;ll be &quot;lazy&quot; too then, good luck.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>most development packages in debian/devuan end in -dev, not -devel. There are a few libcups*-dev packages. Whoever wrote that script doesn&#039;t know that.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>foo-devel is a RedHat thing, the script knows nothing about Devuan and it&#039;s a near-certainty that it&#039;s just misdetecting the distro... Which, again, had deepforest provided the output of hplip-install --debug we would know rather than have to take educated guesses at.</p><p>I mean, it took me all of about a minute to extract the install script and see it had a debug flag, surely Mr. &quot;runs unstable and installs things from SourceForge&quot; could have done that too <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p><p>*Aside, if anyone is wondering why I&#039;m not spoon-feeding the answer (besides just generally being a bastard OFC), it&#039;s right here in the attitude:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>deepforest wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>do not be lazy...<br />if you cant answer stop offtopic...<br />sado-mazo game/toy for geeks/nerds...<br />unprofessional...<br />by amators...<br />Its linux baby, here nothing works good...<br />Bugs at linux have name - &quot;features&quot;...</p></div></blockquote></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 13:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63823#p63823</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>greenjeans wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... metric-ton of dev packages ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Same here.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>greenjeans wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... and none end in &quot;.devel&quot;.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>But ...<br />Have you searched for packages using *-devel?* <br />* maybe not enough Joe? 8^P</p><p>My TimeShift snapshots stash say my system had these <span class="bbu">two years</span> ago:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>$ locate *-devel
/2024-03-09_07-37-32/localhost/usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1-dev/fontconfig-devel
/2024-03-09_07-37-32/localhost/usr/share/doc-base/fontconfig-devel
/2024-03-15_08-30-04/localhost/usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1-dev/fontconfig-devel
/2024-03-15_08-30-04/localhost/usr/share/doc-base/fontconfig-devel
/2024-05-23_08-50-02/localhost/usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1-dev/fontconfig-devel
/2024-05-23_08-50-02/localhost/usr/share/doc-base/fontconfig-devel
$ </code></pre></div><p>That said, my present Daedalus system has nothing with *-devel in the name.</p><p>A very quick look at the web (whatever that is these days) found that <span class="bbc">-dev</span> is Debian/Ubuntu ware and <span class="bbc">-devel</span> is RedHat/CentOS/Fedora ware. Take it with a few grains of low sodium salt.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 12:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63814#p63814</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Also, most development packages in debian/devuan end in -dev, not -devel.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>yeah that pegged my WTH meter too, I have a metric-ton of dev packages on my system and none end in &quot;.devel&quot;.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 00:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63810#p63810</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="codebox"><pre><code>Package-Name         Component            Required/Optional   
libtool              base                 REQUIRED            
cups-devel           base                 REQUIRED            
cups-image           base                 REQUIRED            
libusb               base                 REQUIRED            
python3-pyqt4-dbus   gui_qt4              OPTIONAL            
python3-pyqt4        gui_qt4              REQUIRED            
python3-devel        base                 REQUIRED            </code></pre></div><p>The only package in that list that I could find in excalibur is libtool. Either they are looking for a specific version, or they don&#039;t know where to find libtool in a debian system. There is a libusb-0.1.4 and a libusb-1.0.0 in excalibur, but those either don&#039;t match the script&#039;s search pattern or they are the wrong version. Or again, maybe they don&#039;t know where to look. The others don&#039;t exist.</p><p>Also, most development packages in debian/devuan end in -dev, not -devel. There are a few libcups*-dev packages. Whoever wrote that script doesn&#039;t know that. </p><p>Why is it on sourceforge instead of some HP website?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 21:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63809#p63809</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>No, I&#039;m afraid you have not understood.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>and i am afraid you not undestand my question,<br />&quot;How install hplip-3.25.8?&quot; or why installation brakes at dependencies stage?<br />if you cant answer stop offtopic <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>The package you are attempting to install has not been packaged for Devuan by the Devuan maintainers.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>do not be lazy, run hplip script and you see that Debian is present in supported distros</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (deepforest)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 17:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>deepforest wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... understood ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No, I&#039;m afraid you have <span class="bbu">not</span> understood.</p><p>Maybe it is a language problem, the answers posted somehow lost in translation?<br />No idea.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>deepforest wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... but why exactly lasted hplip do not want to install at Devuan ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The answer to your question is really quite simple:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />The package you are attempting to install <span class="bbu"><strong>has not</strong></span> been packaged for Devuan by the Devuan maintainers.<br />----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p></div></blockquote></div><p>If you want to know <span class="bbu">why</span> the hplip-3.25.8 package you downloaded (which is not a *.deb file) will not &quot;<em>install at Devuan</em>&quot; you will have to ask the maintainers:</p><p><a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/files/hplip/3.25.8/" rel="nofollow">https://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/ … ip/3.25.8/</a></p><p>To be able to do that you have to join the sourceforge.org mailing list:</p><p><a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/lists/hplip-help" rel="nofollow">https://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/lists/hplip-help</a></p><p>Once you have joined, you can log-in:</p><p><a href="https://sourceforge.net/auth/" rel="nofollow">https://sourceforge.net/auth/</a></p><p>And post the question:</p><p><a href="https://sourceforge.net/p/hplip/mailman/hplip-help/" rel="nofollow">https://sourceforge.net/p/hplip/mailman/hplip-help/</a></p><p>Your argument [<em>... debian repos always have unfresh old software.</em>] is quite clearly not a valid one.<br />The hplip package in the Devuan repositories works as intended and (for the moment) is the only one available for Devuan.</p><p>I hope I have cleared up your doubts.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 23:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@steve_v<br />@Robin<br />Ok, i am understood, but i am asking not about distro, but why exactly lasted hplip do not want to install at Devuan and breaks at dependencies stage?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (deepforest)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 22:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63792#p63792</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>You could always use Arch, by the way. The latest and greatest, newest and shiniest, untested, unproven, but it still has the new car smell.<br />Devuan is <strong>STABLE</strong>; tested, proven, reliable. But &quot;older&quot; because <em>it takes time</em> to test and prove new software.</p><p>You might be happier on a distro like <a href="https://artixlinux.org/" rel="nofollow">Artix</a> because it&#039;s also systemd-free, XLibre, and built Arch.</p><p>Devuan is not going to change from it&#039;s stated purpose and goals to accommodate one user with unrealistic expectations.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Robin)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 11:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>HP site refers to this</p></div></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware#Footnotes wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Do not obtain software from anywhere other than Debian, not even from the software&#039;s author, unless you have the skills and the time to solve the resultant problems!</p></div></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Don&#039;t suffer from Shiny New Stuff Syndrome</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Over and over again you ignore this advice, then when things inevitably break, you go and post a bunch of off-topic &quot;Linux is buggy&quot; comments in random threads.</p><p>If you must have the latest hplip from unofficial sources, either fix the installer or build it from source. The latter might be as easy as a &#039;uupdate&#039; against the existing Debian/Devuan sources with a new upstream tarball. Whining about things not working when all the documentation warns you about exactly that achieves nothing.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 05:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63780#p63780</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>&quot;Why would anyone here know (or care) about some random executable &quot;installer&quot;?&quot;</p></div></blockquote></div><p>HP site refers to this, so its not &quot;random&quot;<br /><a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/files/hplip/3.25.8/" rel="nofollow">https://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/ … ip/3.25.8/</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (deepforest)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 21:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Why lasted hplip installation interrupts at dependencies stage? Devuan here already have most part of needed dependencies but hplip 3.25.8 do not recognize</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Why would anyone here know (or care) about some random executable &quot;installer&quot;? As already stated (more than once) the packages in the repos work fine, and that&#039;s what people who <em>don&#039;t</em> want a broken system use. <br />If you really want to know, ask whoever provided that .run file - or extract it and look at whatever pre-install checks it&#039;s doing yourself, since it&#039;s probably just a bunch of shell concatenated with a compressed archive. My bet is that it&#039;s looking for Ubuntu package names or specific versions, but that&#039;s for you to determine if you insist on installing &quot;fresh&quot; software in weird formats.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 13:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How install hplip-3.25.8?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63752#p63752</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>A Debian based system is never going to give you that</p></div></blockquote></div><p>My question in first post of this topic - Why lasted hplip installation interrupts at dependencies stage? Devuan here already have most part of needed dependencies but hplip 3.25.8 do not recognize it?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2026 16:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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