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Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (prospero) — Tue, 05 May 2026 17:41:55 +0000

I would suggest installing afresh from the latest genuen 6 excalibur iso:
https://www.genuen.org/mirror/excalibur

Here it is booting fine and fast into a graphical session. I suppose the external mediation is provided by case 2 above (dbus and elogind), but did not have time to investigate further.

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (gfp) — Tue, 05 May 2026 12:16:18 +0000

thanks for clearification
I did not know that.
I don´t mind which option to choose, it should just work.
How can I choose this or that, what do I have to do?

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (ralph.ronnquist) — Tue, 05 May 2026 10:06:58 +0000

It obviously cannot be repeated enough times, but Xorg and Xlibre have off-loaded the opeings of device nodes and files to an external mediator, which (presently) is one of 1) seatd via socket, 2) elogind via dbus or 3) seatd as subproces. The fallback, option 3, requires that the X server is run by a user with due read-write access to all required device nodes and files, whereas options 1 and 2 only requires read-write access to the communication socket. Though options 1 and 2 require their surrounding services.

Choose your use case.

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (gfp) — Tue, 05 May 2026 09:37:04 +0000

Crtl+Alt+F7 gives the same as F1, I have to enter my user ID and password.

I tried to to take a photo but I don't know how to get it into this message.

there are problems with
[libseat/backend/seat.c:64] could not connect to socket /run/satd.sock: No such fule or directory....

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (prospero) — Mon, 04 May 2026 18:41:07 +0000

gtp wrote:

XOrg server does not work anymore

Maybe it does, but on a different tty. If you press Ctrl+Alt+F7 instead of entering startx, what are you getting?

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (gfp) — Mon, 04 May 2026 15:30:41 +0000

running

cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"

gives the message:

(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.

the interesting thing is that after installing Genuen approx. 5 times opening it everything worked well.
after that XOrg server does not work anymore.

I tried 3 times to install Hperbola, but it failed,
then I gave up because my knowledge is too little.
I also now too little to follow zappers proposal.

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (zapper) — Sun, 03 May 2026 04:24:02 +0000

There's also something Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre devs found called sx

It does what startx does but is even more minimal and I have used it, no issues once its all set up. Then you just copy paste a backup in case when you reinstall your os, etc...

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (prospero) — Sun, 03 May 2026 00:25:32 +0000

This does not show any error.

You could run cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)" and see what that digs up.

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (gfp) — Sat, 02 May 2026 14:19:50 +0000

starting Genuen
..
...
....
starting network connection manager: Network manager
ok: run: dbus: (pid 4990) 1s

those are the last messages
then waiting
still one message about acpi error

and nothing more

It can't start Xorg.

the first messages in the file: /var/olg/Xorg.0.log:

[ 124.745]
X.Org X Server 1.21.1.16
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[ 124.745] Current Operating System: Linux Tuxedo 6.1.0-27-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Gnuinos 6.1.115-1 (2024-11-01) x86_64
[ 124.745] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-27-amd64 root=UUID=8921d97a-ed7c-4ea7-b703-25e7d8c31647 ro quiet
[ 124.745] xorg-server 2:21.1.16-1.3+deb13u1devuan1 (https://www.devuan.org/os/community)
[ 124.745] Current version of pixman: 0.44.0
[ 124.745] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[ 124.745] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 124.746] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.1.log", Time: Sat May 2 16:04:33 2026
[ 124.746] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 124.747] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
[ 124.747] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.

How can I may be reinstall XOrg ... to get the GUI?

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (prospero) — Sat, 02 May 2026 09:39:58 +0000

there are several messages that xorg can't start

You may want to have a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (gfp) — Thu, 30 Apr 2026 23:28:35 +0000

bootlogd is already installed
but the file /var/log/boot is empty.
It does not record anything until now.

there are several messages that xorg can't start, but I can't recall them by heart. That´s why I want to get those messages.

there are messages in /var/log/syslog:

2026-05-01T01:07:34.694355+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.687:208): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/etc/udev/udev.conf" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.694406+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.687:209): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/proc/7419/mounts" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
2026-05-01T01:07:34.698272+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.691:210): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="mkdir" profile="Xorg" name="/dev/metadata/udev/events/serial/libudev-7419-0/" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
2026-05-01T01:07:34.698307+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.691:211): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/proc/7419/mounts" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
2026-05-01T01:07:34.710359+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.703:212): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/run/systemd/sessions/2" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.710398+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.703:213): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/run/systemd/sessions/2" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.822306+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.815:214): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/dev/metadata/udev/data/c226:0" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.862283+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.855:215): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/etc/udev/udev.conf" pid=7420 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.862328+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.855:216): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/proc/7420/mounts" pid=7420 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.862337+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.855:217): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="mkdir" profile="Xorg" name="/dev/metadata/udev/events/serial/libudev-7420-0/" pid=7420 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=0 ouid=0

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (aitor) — Thu, 30 Apr 2026 18:54:18 +0000

in /var/log/boot, but you need to install bootlogd

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (gfp) — Thu, 30 Apr 2026 10:49:56 +0000

How can I copy or save the messages which come up when starting Genuen?
Where are those messages saved?

in /var/log/ there are many log files.
Which one shows exactly that, which comes up when booting Genuen?

I checked several, but didn't find exactly those which I was looking for.

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (aitor) — Wed, 29 Apr 2026 18:38:45 +0000

Polkitd looks for authorisation rules in several directories, but cannot find them. Polkit simply reports that these optional directories are not present. But this is not a serious issue as long as it manages to load the basic rules.

Re: GENUEN starting GUI

dummy@example.com (gfp) — Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:22:50 +0000

should I install gdm ?