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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan with....systemd!?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Devuan!</p><p>As an introduction to Devuan, please take a look at the systemd packages that are <strong>banned</strong> in Devuan. One is text and the other graphical:</p><p><a href="https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt" rel="nofollow">https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt</a></p><p><a href="https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/log/unstable-banned.svg" rel="nofollow">https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/log/unstable-banned.svg</a></p><p>That will give you an idea of the magnitude of the problem and how most of it is solved . . . it is sent to the trash bin!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2026 18:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Devuan with....systemd!?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Devuan has done a lot of great work patching systemd hard dependencies out of Debian packages. So ironically, I think Devuan actually has an opportunity to <strong>appeal to certain systemd fans.</strong></p><p>Think about it: somebody who likes systemd might still be open to switching to another init system. Maybe they&#039;ll eventually change their mind about systemd, or maybe a new init system comes out that is (in their view) superior to systemd.</p><p>For this type of user, Devuan&#039;s patching is perfect, as it removes the systemd vendor lock-in that would otherwise force them to stay on systemd.</p><p>But as far as I understand, Devuan blacklists systemd entirely and prevents its installation. I don&#039;t think systemd itself has to be an enemy of init freedom, and dinit (which is functionally similar) proves this. So I think we could convince a lot of Debian users to switch over to Devuan if they had the option to use systemd without any hard dependencies.</p><p>TL;DR: many systemd fans can see that the ecosystem SURROUNDING systemd isn&#039;t futureproof, and would like the ability to use systemd today without being forced to use it tomorrow. Devuan could broaden its userbase by appealing to these concerns.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (KoalaPine)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2026 18:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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