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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Unusual startup logs after removing X11 on Devuan SysVInit]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<h5>Update: on <span class="bbc">x11-common</span></h5><h5>Troubleshooting x11-common as a dependency for certain applications</h5><p>So, after updating my system and attempting to install the <a href="https://vencord.dev/download/vesktop/amd64/deb" rel="nofollow">Vesktop</a> <span class="bbc">.deb</span> using <span class="bbc">dkpg -i</span>, it refused due to a dependency failure. After using <span class="bbc">sudo apt install -f</span> to resolve broken package dependencies to allow me to install, <span class="bbc">x11-common</span> was one of the listed dependencies.</p><h5>What is x11-common?</h5><p>I found that strange considering I do not have <span class="bbc">xwayland</span> or similar compatibility layers at the time. After installing it, I looked up the <a href="https://packages.debian.org/sid/x11-common" rel="nofollow">x11-common package listing from upstream</a> gives me the following description:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Debian Packages wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>x11-common contains the filesystem infrastructure required for further installation of the X Window System in any configuration; it does not provide a full installation of clients, servers, libraries, and utilities required to run the X Window System.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>From what I can derive in layman&#039;s terms is that <span class="bbc">x11-common</span> provides only some files and directories necessary to what a system needs to eventually run a graphical interface (like the windows, icons, and menus you see on screen), but doesn&#039;t actually provide the tools to create the windows or GUI from it -- which would make sense if the user would be installing an X11 application.</p><h5>Result</h5><p>The result, if not immediately obvious, is that <span class="bbc">startpar</span> can now find <span class="bbc">x11-common</span>, so it doesn&#039;t display this anymore:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>startpar: service(s) refused failure: x11-common ... failed! # no longer displays as a result of installing x11-common</code></pre></div><p>Still investigating what deal is with <span class="bbc">pulseaudio-enable-autospawn</span>, and why it is holding <span class="bbc">cups</span> hostage.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 08:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Unusual startup logs after removing X11 on Devuan SysVInit]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<h5>Context</h5><p>You might have seen this post series from my organization related <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7743" rel="nofollow">setting up Pipewire and Hyprland on Devuan</a>. Another potentially important piece of the puzzle is my earlier post related to <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7899" rel="nofollow">asking about the possibility of switching to the Devuan OpenRC Setup Post-Desktop Live Install</a>.</p><p>Essentially, at the time I created the guide, I was memed into using the default OpenRC configuration offered on some of the <span class="bbc">.iso</span> installation options for Devuan. I&#039;m new to init freedom altogether, so I&#039;m playing around with what init system would be optimal and friction-least for a computer user. For an unrelated reason, my installation borked after an attempt at cleaning up unnecessary packages on my system (the exact cause to me is a mystery). This post, after reading a little bit about how Devuan approaches init (&quot;enhanced&quot; SysVInit being apparently more performant, and how the default OpenRC apparently uses SysVInit for certain things anyway), is about exploring as another &quot;branch&quot; of experimentation of how this can cleanly be done using Devuan&#039;s default init system.</p><h5>What is happening?</h5><p>Essentially, when I boot up into the tty on the SysVInit computer, I&#039;m getting logs similar but not limited to:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>startpar: service(s) refused failure: x11-common ... failed!
startpar: service(s) refused failure: pulseaudio-enable-autospawn cups cups-browsed ... failed!</code></pre></div><p>I&#039;m not sure how to exactly extract the logs that pop on a tty on startup, upon learning how, I&#039;ll edit/add a post to include them.</p><p>My assumption would be that this would essentially be a game of whack-a-mole of telling SysVInit scripts to not call certain applications to allow applications to function properly. For example, in the first snippet above, I&#039;m curious if having <span class="bbc">pulseaudio-enable-autospawn</span> fail would cause me problems later in regard to being able to use printers with <span class="bbc">cups</span>. Conversely, I&#039;m curious if this could not be the case and it is simply a matter of flipping off configuration files or hiding the messages in come way in the case that, generally speaking, the <span class="bbc">... Failed!</span> messages are inconsequential (an example being that <span class="bbc">pulseaudio-enable-autospawn</span> failing doesn&#039;t appear to be affecting my ability to use audio devices with Pipewire).</p><p>Any pointers appreciated.</p><p>Best,</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 06:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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