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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] ext4 write slow on small 120gb sata SSD]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=62587#p62587</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kapqa wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>maybe bit &quot;solved&quot; too-early,<br />it seem the two SSD same/brand/ same denomination/size SA400S3 behave differently;</p><p>the earlier tested still show very slow performance with ext4 and &quot;normal&quot; speeds with ntfs.<br />the other SA400S3 show good write/speed with both ext4 AND ntfs -- on same computer, with same cables, on ssame sata sloet (sata3 speed capable).</p><p>so am wondering if the SSD is not somewat bit-defective or some other mystery involved.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The other elephant in the room is firmware behaviour. <br />Consumer SSDs have a minimum erase-block size and can suffer from free-space fragmentation issues. They usually don&#039;t have uniform write performance in general, relying on cache/host memory and a dedicated &quot;fast&quot; area to buffer writes until they can do a more efficient block allocation.</p><p>The upshot of all that is that SSDs do quite a lot of sneaky things in the background to appear faster than the flash memory actually is, they need regular &quot;trimming&quot; to release blocks and power-on-idle downtime so the firmware can do garbage collection, wear-leveling, and free-space defragmentation.<br />If any of that goes sideways (IME usually due to firmware bugs), performance will fall off a proverbial cliff.<br />Check both drives are running the same firmware revision (and update if any are available), check the wear-leveling counters in SMART, and try a full zero-fill wipe followed by a trim on the problematic drive.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>onedevone wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Its a magnitute faster on nand-flash</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Benchmarks or GTFO.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>onedevone wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>spinning drives are ancient history</p></div></blockquote></div><p>How strange they&#039;re still being manufactured in volume, and the technology (e.g. HAMR) is still under active development. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>onedevone wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I was forced to use ext4</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You were forced to think for yourself. Devuan can run any root filesystem supported by the kernel (as can most distros), the limitation is only in the installer. As for /home... That&#039;s utterly trivial to set up after install, with any filesystem you like.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2026 03:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It will be slow. I already posted that error and was laughed off. You can tweak ext4 with fast commit, but ext4 is not created for nand-flash and you cannot chose f2fs (creaded from the ground up for nand-flash). Its a magnitute faster on nand-flash. I was laughed off when I said that spinning drives are ancient history and installer should have possibility to use f2fs (on root and home). I was forced to use ext4 and comparing to my Artix with f2fs, Exalibur speed is a joke.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (onedevone)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] ext4 write slow on small 120gb sata SSD]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=62293#p62293</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>2012 actually, don&#039;t hate, how many SSD&#039;s last 14 years?</p></div></blockquote></div><p> I&#039;ve one from 2013, still in use. It has all chances to live more than 14 years. This old laptop had 7200 Rpm HD but it was too slow <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />My other machine has 2 slots for HDs, so I use 1 SSD for root, for VMs and model to start them quickly and 1 HD for downloads and data storage.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Devarch)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2026 10:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] ext4 write slow on small 120gb sata SSD]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=62229#p62229</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>thanks, could test with another SSD also same/brand/ 120 GB,</p><p>it seems the ext4 and ntfs don&#039;t differ so much in speed after all;<br />must have been en error devil on the loose.</p><p>the only difference made this time with gparted was to create a new partition table from the start before formatting;<br />the ssd was linked under /media/user/5EA--etcet-etcet-etcet-etcet from the get-go for both format;<br />if i am not mistaken , the other ssd once showed up as /dev/something, but will have to test again to make sure there is not something else going on with that SSd.</p><p>EDIt:</p><p>maybe bit &quot;solved&quot; too-early,<br />it seem the two SSD same/brand/ same denomination/size SA400S3 behave differently;</p><p>the earlier tested still show very slow performance with ext4 and &quot;normal&quot; speeds with ntfs.<br />the other SA400S3 show good write/speed with both ext4 AND ntfs -- on same computer, with same cables, on ssame sata sloet (sata3 speed capable).</p><p>so am wondering if the SSD is not somewat bit-defective or some other mystery involved.</p><p>ext4 -speed screenshot for originally tested ssd<br /><a href="https://ibb.co/23RdpwvR" rel="nofollow">https://ibb.co/23RdpwvR</a><br /><a href="https://ibb.co/N2BhwwG2" rel="nofollow">https://ibb.co/N2BhwwG2</a></p><p>nfts -speed screenshot<br /><a href="https://ibb.co/6JqDJGb6" rel="nofollow">https://ibb.co/6JqDJGb6</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (kapqa)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 12:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=62223#p62223</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>SSDs for general use, HDDs for infrequently accessed bulk storage where capacity&gt;performance... <br />And hybrid ZFS pools for both at the same time. Nothing quite beats an array of large mechanical drives with a TB or so of high-IOPS SSD as cache and 100GB ish of RAM dedicated to caching the cache. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 07:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=62222#p62222</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ive got nothing earlier than 2010.<br />On the drive itself it says &quot;Nov 2010, made in thailand&quot;, think bought it around 2011 too.</p><p>I vaguely remember the size of first hdd drive i had (not the model) in late 1998 for an IBM desktop, I think it was a whopping 4GB.</p><p>I prefer ssd&#039;s nowdays though, much faster and so far ive not had any corruption yet, &quot;touches wood&quot;.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 06:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] ext4 write slow on small 120gb sata SSD]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Lol, if we&#039;re playing the &quot;oldest working drive&quot; game... Conner CP-210 (1984) no issues, no bad sectors. Not much use nowadays being 42MB, but still occasionally boots DOS in one of my vintage boxes.<br />Most of this is really just survivorship bias of course. To get any real idea of HDD vs SSD reliability you need a much bigger sample size than any of us have. </p><p>IMO trying to gauge how many SSDs last 14 years is a bit silly at this point in time anyway, since most SSDs available back then have long been retired... Not because they failed, but because they were miserably small. A HDD from 2012 is probably a size that&#039;s still useful today, but an SSD from the same period is eclipsed by commodity SD cards and USB flash drives at a fraction of the cost.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>i dont think hdd&#039;s come in that size anymore do they?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>375GB(ish) platters were state-of-the art in 2010, and 2 platters is about all you can do in a 2.5x3/8&quot; laptop drive. These days areal density is a fair bit higher, so the multiples are different.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 06:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=62220#p62220</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have a 750GB Western Digital scorpio black 2.5 HDD from 2010, still going strong as a portable drive for backups.<br />Odd size too, i dont think hdd&#039;s come in that size anymore do they?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (laurie_dev1)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 05:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=62219#p62219</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>how many SSD&#039;s last 14 years?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>IME, most of them. I still have the first SSD I bought (OCZ Agility 3), also from 2011, and it still works perfectly.<br />I have a couple of earlier models (2010 IIRC) I bought used, and they work perfectly as well. In fact, I&#039;ve never actually had an SSD &quot;wear out&quot;, the vast majority of failures are sudden and just outside the warranty period, much as with spinning-rust.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 04:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>greenjeans wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>how many SSD&#039;s last 14 years?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t know how many, but my Transcend 32GB SLC SATA SSD from 2011 is still going strong, no errors, with an average erase count of 29315 right now, according to smartctl. <br />I paid around 100 Euros for it at the time.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (tux_99)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 03:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=62214#p62214</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>If you think &quot;I still boot from a single bargain-basement mechanical drive from 2009&quot; is some kind of brag (outside the vintage scene, and half of that is using flash these days anyway), you do you.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>2012 actually, don&#039;t hate, how many SSD&#039;s last 14 years?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 00:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=62184#p62184</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>I see all you need is to drop promotions for your &quot;best&quot; thing for no reason, just because you like to promote.</p><p>This thread had nothing to do with i/o schedulers, nobody asked which one is the best.<br />When told out of left-field that something is &quot;The best&quot; (without an &quot;in my opinion&quot;), asking for some proof isn&#039;t unreasonable.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You don`t want to get the idea:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>I share here some of my foundings that are good, interesting or better than default. You can just note that is not for you.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I`M NOT A SELLER. You can use it or not, read the docs or not, test or not, I don`t care.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Devarch)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2026 15:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I see all you need is to drop promotions for your &quot;best&quot; thing for no reason, just because you like to promote.</p><p>This thread had nothing to do with i/o schedulers, nobody asked which one is the best. <br />When told out of left-field that something is &quot;The best&quot; (without an &quot;in my opinion&quot;), asking for some proof isn&#039;t unreasonable.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2026 15:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=62181#p62181</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>steve_v</strong>, I see all you need is to discuss for no reason, just because you like to discuss. </p><p> ADIOS is just Adaptive Deadline I/O Scheduler. It means that it`s scheduler, just another (better) scheduler. Not default linux scheduler but new better one. It is designed to optimize I/O operations in Linux by providing low latency through adaptive latency control and dynamic deadline adjustments based on past performance. It also effectively prioritizes requests and groups.</p><p>You are not forced to use it, OK?</p><p>I share here some of my foundings that are good, interesting or better than default. You can just note that is not for you.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Devarch)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2026 14:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=62158#p62158</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>You can do it on your own.<br />I got the effect.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>&quot;Just take my word for it, it feels faster (totally not confirmation bias, trust me bro)&quot;.<br />FTFY.</p><p>Thanks, but no thanks. In my testing on low-latency RAID NVME the best i/o scheduler is consistently [none]. I run Gentoo not Arch, so my ricing is data-driven.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2026 09:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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