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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61370#p61370</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Vivaldi does update. I have been using it across windows, linux, mac and android for a few years. It&#039;s been pretty seemless for me and the android app was the deciding factor. They may not be fully open source, only 70% so but they are one of very few browsers that can go on all four platforms and allow custom default search which is the feature I set the bar with. Being that I am only semi linux literate it wouldn&#039;t really matter to me if all the code were open cause I wouldn&#039;t understand it anyway. Brave are much shadyer in my opinion (did a deep dive on them once) but I can understand developers not liking vivaldi. They do, however serve a purpose and their compatibility and customization without any coding skills is handy for someone like me.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2026 06:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61086#p61086</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@Fielding</p><p>Try this and post the output in a reply:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>aptitude search vivaldi</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (pcalvert)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 21:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61084#p61084</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t have a horse in this race, I use Chromium from the repos, and Pale Moon. As far as Brave goes, I&#039;ve read some bad stuff about it as well.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Ron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 21:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61083#p61083</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Has anyone had better luck with Brave???</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yeah at least on Daedalus, running it right now, works fine after you do some initial work on settings. Ad-blocking is pretty good.</p><p>Main thing I like about it, is that it&#039;s not Firefox. Second thing I like about it is that it&#039;s not Firefox. No ridiculous scrollbar nonsense, that&#039;s another plus.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 21:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61082#p61082</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Tried this apt purge vivaldi-stable&#160; and other suggestions but no luck. Will probably have to uninstall Devuan to get rid of???? Negative feelings are just because it caused alot of problems...really &quot;looked&quot; like a great browser to use but not so much. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" />&#160; &#160;Wanted to get away from Firefox/Edge/Chrome etc. so will have to keep looking. Thanks all!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Fielding)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 21:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61081#p61081</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>What&#039;s wrong with it?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s proprietary, so who really knows? <br />&quot;Negative feelings&quot; about closed-source browsers and packages that are not compliant with Debian free-software guidelines or packaging policy, on the discussion board for a Debian-based FOSS distribution, are not particularly surprising.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>It&#039;s no worse than Chrome, is it?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s really not a very high bar to pass, typhoid is &quot;no worse&quot; than lung cancer, but I for one don&#039;t want either. <br />Brave and the like are at least open-source, so any dubious &quot;features&quot; are readily inspect-able.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61080#p61080</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>steve_v wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>As for Vivaldi, their website claims that after installing the the .deb package &quot;our Linux update repositories will be configured automatically for you to receive updates&quot;.<br />Personally I doubt this &quot;Users are stupid so we don&#039;t give technical details, just click button and we&#039;ll handle everything&quot; corpo-speak bullshit, but I&#039;m not about to install the thing to find out.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I can vouch for this when I used Vivaldi a while ago. After installing it, it was showing in Synaptic and updates came through it (Synaptic / apt). It has been a while since I&#039;ve used it, I&#039;m not quite sure of all the negative feelings being said about it here. What&#039;s wrong with it? It&#039;s no worse than Chrome, is it? Of course that&#039;s not saying much anyway. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Ron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61078#p61078</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Anybody know how to get rid of?</p></div></blockquote></div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>apt purge vivaldi-stable</code></pre></div><p>...probably. Assuming the package didn&#039;t do anything else idiotic in postinst. It doesn&#039;t appear to, but I didn&#039;t look very hard.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Discover</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Is a janky PoS at the best of times (ditto packagekit in general). Use apt at the CLI, or if you must have a GUI, synaptic.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 19:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61077#p61077</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>No have not seen this link...will check it out. Thanks.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Fielding)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 18:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61076#p61076</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen this from Debian?</p><p><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/WebBrowsers" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.debian.org/WebBrowsers</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 18:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61075#p61075</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Anybody know how to get rid of? Not showing up as installed in Discover but can&#039;t unpin from task bar and/or delete grayed out screen with Vivaldo logo.</p><p>Has anyone had better luck with Brave???</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Fielding)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 18:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61073#p61073</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>It puts the browser in the opt directory and nowhere is there to be found a gpg key. They install a cron job file which when trying to look at has nothing in it so it is a bit of a mystery what it does.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Everything is inline in the package postinst script, the repository configuration and key signature (base64, for reasons) are piped into the config files... Because of course that&#039;s how they do it - it&#039;s the best way to fuck around with the system (making sure their browser is the very highest priority in alternatives for example) and &quot;support&quot; multiple distros with a single .deb.<br />The crontab file is a symlink to /opt/vivaldi/cron/vivaldi, which is a copy-paste from the postinst and apparently rewrites the apt configuration and keys every day... Again, reasons, presumably. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p><p>Proprietary vendors are all the same when it comes to packaging, total disregard for established standards. Everything that can be an executable script is, windows lets vendors screw around however they like and execute whatever they want so that&#039;s how it must be done everywhere.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 15:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61071#p61071</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I also had a brief go&#039;round with vivaldi many years ago. Kicked it to the curb when I learned more about it.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 15:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61061#p61061</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>As for Vivaldi, their website claims that after installing the the .deb package &quot;our Linux update repositories will be configured automatically for you to receive updates&quot;.<br />Personally I doubt this &quot;Users are stupid so we don&#039;t give technical details, just click button and we&#039;ll handle everything&quot; corpo-speak bullshit, but I&#039;m not about to install the thing to find out.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I did not install the piece of trash but did download and extract the package and its data payload. It puts the browser in the opt directory and nowhere is there to be found a gpg key. They install a cron job file which when trying to look at has nothing in it so it is a bit of a mystery what it does. I tried their junk once many years ago and gave up once I discovered they were more interested in controlling their &quot;smart&quot; lights from the browser than actually fixing the bugs I reported. My reward for that effort was constant spam from the scumbags on the email that reported the bugs such that I had to create a special filter for anything coming from them going straight to /dev/null. That is the type of people you deal with when using it.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (RedGreen925)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 08:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61059#p61059</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>You have third-party repos with missing signing keys, so apt is (rightly) ignoring them.<br />See the <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianRepository/UseThirdParty" rel="nofollow">Debian wiki</a> and <a href="https://manpages.debian.org/stable/apt/apt-secure.8.en.html" rel="nofollow">apt-secure(8)</a>. apt-key was removed in trixie/excalibur, any &quot;guides&quot; on the net that mention it are out-of-date.</p><p>For brave, you might want to try <a href="https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&amp;q=extrepo" rel="nofollow">extrepo</a>.<br />As for Vivaldi, their website <a href="https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/install-update/manual-setup-vivaldi-linux-repositories/" rel="nofollow">claims</a> that after installing the the .deb package &quot;our Linux update repositories will be configured automatically for you to receive updates&quot;. <br />Personally I doubt this &quot;Users are stupid so we don&#039;t give technical details, just click button and we&#039;ll handle everything&quot; corpo-speak bullshit, but I&#039;m not about to install the thing to find out.<br />AFAICT, <a href="https://gist.github.com/pkorpine/16fcdbe070222cf1d99e67cf542e60c2" rel="nofollow">this</a> is pretty much what <em>should</em> be on that page WRT repo setup and key import. The security implications of using /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d as in this example are explained in the wiki above.</p><p>I don&#039;t use either of these packages myself, so YMMV.&#160; Frankly why people need multiple <del>&quot;privacy&quot; browsers</del> proprietary and/or crypto nonsense packing chrome forks from third-party sources rather than just configuring the tested offerings in the stable repos to their liking is beyond me, but whatever. vOv.</p><p>Also, as always, <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_make_a_FrankenDebian" rel="nofollow">DonkBreakDe[bi|vu]an</a>. Note comment on &quot;other repositories created to distribute single applications&quot;.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 05:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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