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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Defend Devuan against Antivirus and other thinks]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pcalvert wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Hi David,</p><p>Instead of an antivirus, considering using these things instead: AppArmor, FireHOL, Firejail, and NoScript or <a href="https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-Benefits-of-blocking-3rd-party-iframe-tags" rel="nofollow">uBlock Origin</a>.</p><p>Phil</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Exactly, I used to be that ignorant, no offense, but it is a lack of knowledge that makes people think you need anti virus for everything.</p><p>Use AppArmor + Firejail + Noscript + Ublock Origin + Privacy Badger</p><p>these alone are good enough to block a whole lot of crap. </p><p>Also, greasemonkey and AAK-Cont Userscript For uBlock Origin </p><p>and you are in good shape. that&#039;s my personal thoughts on this.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2017 09:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2648#p2648</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p><p>Instead of an antivirus, considering using these things instead: AppArmor, FireHOL, Firejail, and NoScript or <a href="https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-Benefits-of-blocking-3rd-party-iframe-tags" rel="nofollow">uBlock Origin</a>.</p><p>Phil</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2017 18:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2624#p2624</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>As fsmithred and greenjeans&#160; have said you do not need an antivirus for linux.<br />(or *BSDs)</p><p>_the rest of this is possibly not relevant_ but as I wrote it over my first coffee ...<br />Here it is anyway. Random observations&#160; thats all.</p><p>Its not impossible to write a virus that actually does something,&#160; just very difficult to do without _social__tricks_.<br />Like convincing you to run your browser or office suite&#160; as root or something startling...<br />(yeah I guess this could happen, we are only humans. )</p><p>The easier attack vector for &quot;Nixen&quot; is where they do their work on networks.<br />(so packet filtering and simply not running services you don&#039;t need).<br /> Or via exploits in existing software or via the package management system or even firmware blobs.<br />(say in a closed driver for some zappy new IoT thing)</p><p>rkhunter <br />is an _excellent_ well tested tool to scan for , rootkits.</p><p>It is particularly useful where you have many users with mixed skill sets.<br />e.g. you are&#160; running webservers or have shell access accounts (!)&#160; etc.<br />As _one_ layer of defence along with others.</p><p>clamav <br />is&#160; for scanning email and _attachments_&#160; for windows targeted payloads.<br />It would also be useful if your file sharing with windows networks etc.<br />Or collaborating with MSoffice users a lot.</p><p>i.e. Clamav looks for _known_ bad payloads in files you probably share..<br />You can help protect _them_ with clamav.<br />This works very well.<br />Now all you need to do is get them to keep _their_ anti virus suites up to date.<br /> (this is not possible)</p><p>As a general user running with no special system privileges your <br />web browser is the weakest link.<br />( other than _yourself_ and,&#160; say sudo <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>There are other approaches like tripwire or entire suites of stuff that audit and help validate your system.<br />Some of them are almost attacks in their own right as they grind your cpu&#039;s down to dust... checksumming&#160; away.</p><p>These absolutely have a real place and are critical in some use cases... <br />Most of those assume your software doesn&#039;t change too often.<br />(thats a blurry line)</p><p>So real security starts with a clean kernel and a good package manager.</p><p>Like Devuan <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&#160; </p><p>Sorry I do rabbit on . .<br />You only need a virus scanner for other peoples stuff.<br />(or because your boss/client/user is an box checking idiot)<br />(which is just a special sub set of the world of stupid really)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2017 03:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2621#p2621</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>You won&#039;t need a virus scanner for linux until enough people are using linux to make it worthwhile for someone to start writing linux viruses. Clamav is a linux virus scanner, but it is used for finding windows viruses. You would do better to spend your time securing your web browser.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2017 23:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2620#p2620</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The only one in the repo is the ubiquitous Clamav, it works okay, have used it a fair bit. There are also some rootkit programs like rkhunter.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2017 23:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2618#p2618</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p><p>Please I want to use a anti virus. But witch one is the best for Devuan?</p><p>Thanks.&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;David</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2017 22:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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