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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59799#p59799</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>gkrellm is just working and maintained - 13 houes ago, says <a href="https://git.srcbox.net/gkrellm/gkrellm" rel="nofollow">https://git.srcbox.net/gkrellm/gkrellm</a></p><p>On my AM4-mainboard, the best collection of temperature sensors is at <span class="bbc">/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon[0-4]/temp[1-9]_input</span><br />This does not include the GPU, which gkrellm covers.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (delgado)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2025 01:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59793#p59793</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>It sounds to me like GKrellm <em>should</em> be looking in sysfs if it does not. How long since it was updated? Maybe it&#039;s time for someone to hack it? <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Micronaut)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2025 00:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59790#p59790</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@Micronaut<br />I do not know how or where <span class="bbc">gkrellm</span> gathers information, but it found a lot of temperature sensors on cpu, gpu, nvme, network, gigabyte-wmi, thermal_zone[0,1]. And presented them as a list to choose from to display. Only the (data-grave-)HDD&#039;s temperature was missing. <br />It&#039;s a good and convenient tool to monitor temperatures (and more).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (delgado)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2025 00:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59732#p59732</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>hddtemp is obsolete, depracated.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rolfie)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2025 20:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59731#p59731</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, does Gkrellm read from sysfs? If it can be configured to do that, it would solve a lot of problems I have had setting it up on various systems.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Micronaut)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2025 20:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59695#p59695</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>an SSD is basically a very large USB stick</p></div></blockquote></div><p>More like several &quot;USB stick&quot;s in RAID0, with dedicated DRAM cache (or host RAM cache if you&#039;re a cheapskate) and a <em>far</em> more intelligent controller.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>I wonder if the internal temperature sensor is available through the interface?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Usually, though what it&#039;s called varies by manufacturer.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Does hddtemp work with SSDs?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Assuming it reads data from the usual sources, I don&#039;t see why not. Honestly I have no idea why people want some dedicated tool like hddtemp just to print data already <a href="https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/hwmon/drivetemp.html" rel="nofollow">available in sysfs</a> or via smartmontools.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2025 02:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59694#p59694</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, an SSD is basically a very large USB stick. I guess it would heat up. I wonder if the internal temperature sensor is available through the interface? Does hddtemp work with SSDs? Or would you have to use some other utility to make the sensor available to GKrellm?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Micronaut)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2025 02:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59663#p59663</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>All power ratings on drives are <em>peak</em> values (for sizing power supplies etc.) unless otherwise specified. They have very little bearing on average power consumption, which will vary wildly with workload.<br />It&#039;s not as simple as &quot;smaller number less power&quot; either, since a faster drive will usually draw higher peak power, but get its work done quicker and drop back to idle sooner. </p><p>The only accurate&#160; way to compare is, as always, to stop obsessing over manufacturer specifications and actually <em>measure</em> power consumption under your specific workload.</p><p>SSDs generally draw peak power under sustained write workloads, HDDs at spinup / spindle start. <br />The big power saving from SSDs comes from write-heavy workloads being intermittent, idle power draw being very low, and the transition being practically free. </p><p>With a HDD you have to choose between keeping the spindle running all the time (thus higher idle draw), or starting it only when needed (incurring access delays and spikes to near peak current). <br />For laptops there&#039;s the added complication of a spinning drive (i.e. unparked heads) being vulnerable to physical shock, so they usually run very short spindown timeouts - that&#039;s great for power consumption if the drive is usually idle, but terrible if it has to spin back up every other minute.</p><p>There&#039;s also an advantage in SSDs not needing to physically move heads around, so all areas cost the same to access (caching complications aside) and reads can use much less power than writes (typical workloads often being more read than write). <br />The power consumption of a HDD for a given operation will vary with where it is on disk, i.e. how many seeks and how far, and seeking to a read location uses just as much power as seeking to a write. (upshot: defragging your rust not only makes it faster, it also saves energy <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />)</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>PCIe3 consumes less than PCIe4, less than PCIe5.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Again that&#039;s peak power, and it&#039;s simply because faster drives use more power under load. The bus itself makes very little difference in the real world, because ASPM.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2025 01:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59650#p59650</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Now you&#039;re talking about the &#039;card&#039; drives that don&#039;t even use SATA connectors. Power usage doesn&#039;t seem to be linear there, either.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Generally spoken, there is not much difference between SATA SSDs in the typical 2,5&quot; housing and these typical 2280 M2 cards as used for NVME drives. The power consumption on all of them are load frequency dependent. </p><p>And as a matter of fact, SSDs are in average of much lower power consumption as the spinning rust drives. Don&#039;t look at the rating, this is a max consumption value a drive rarely takes in in very extreme situations (and gets very hot and slows down to protect).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 19:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59648#p59648</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>used ssd for years and they definitely extend battery life on laptops</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 19:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59647#p59647</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The main selling point of SSDs has always been access times, not power consumption, although SSDs do generally consume less power than hard disks when idle.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (tux_99)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 19:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59645#p59645</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s interesting. Now you&#039;re talking about the &#039;card&#039; drives that don&#039;t even use SATA connectors. Power usage doesn&#039;t seem to be linear there, either.</p><p>Out of curiosity, I popped the cover on a laptop I have to see the tiny little HD. It&#039;s only got a 5v rating, and it&#039;s .55 amps. The motor must be running in the 5v feed along with the electronics. So now I&#039;m really questioning whether SSDs are automatically less power hungry than spinning disks.</p><p>At least these disks I have already bought are intended for desktops. I just want the faster load times. But if I decide to get SSDs for my laptops, I will be shopping very carefully...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 19:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59643#p59643</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The power draw from any SSD is very much depending on the write/read load. The figures given are for full load at full speed plus a bit overhead. The average consumption will be very much lower. </p><p>But to be considered: PCIe3 consumes less than PCIe4, less than PCIe5.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59639#p59639</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>If it&#039;s drawing from BOTH 12v and 5v at the same time, yes, it would clearly use more power. It&#039;s not clear from the label that it does so. Those ratings could be for different modes or different power connections. It&#039;s been a while since I had to worry about HD power.</p><p>But now I have a new thing to check on SSDs. Another brand I got access to, PNY, shows only 1 amp for a 2TB SSD. Quite a difference from the Crucial, and for more storage. Hmm....</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Micronaut)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 18:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Power usage of SSDs]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59633#p59633</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>o that power calculation doesn&#039;t seem to work out for these.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>SSD 5v * 1.7a = 8.5w </p><p>HDD 5v * .68a = 3.4w, 12v * .55a = 6.6w,&#160; for a total of 3.4w + 6.6w = 11w, it uses both them voltages at the same time internally.</p><p>Seems to me the HDD uses more power, then again I know how to do the math.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 17:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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