Thanks to the Devuan team.

Looking forward to upgrading some systems and more years and years of stability.
Really appreciate all the work everyone put in.

Bless you all.

I assume you folks discussing size differences are using the standard installer? I didn't really notice a huge difference between the sizes of Daedalus and Excalibur, but I install manually, and my systems are pretty minimal. My kid was laughing at me last night because I don't even have a graphical file manager!

So will I.

Don't get me started, I have XFCE ...

Some time ago I posted about the need(?) to upgrade from Daedalus to Excalibur.
A very relevant question if you run on ca. 2007 hardware.
Not a Mickey Mouse job, a high quality workstation* working as well as new.
Suits all my needs, no issues.

Indeed ...

I have not seen a suitable explanation for the 30X additional code [ie: just WTF does it do?] but I strongly suspect that it holds something akin to a separate/independent OS.

The problem at hand is that there seems to be no alternative in sight.
Or any indication that there will, at some point, be one.

Maybe we have to carve ourselves a future in the [whatever]BSD arena?  8^/

Best,

A.

* Sun Microsystems U24 - Released by Sun 10/2007 - EOL'd by Oracle 10/2009.

No announcement yet but its imminent. Previously only 'preliminary stable builds' or 'preliminary testing builds' were available for Excalibur. Today:

# Trinity R14.1.x Stable Release (not for testing/unstable)
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x excalibur deps main

is up and running. New packages show up as 4:14.1.5 and will upgrade from previous 'preliminary stable builds'.

If you already run Excalibur with TDE, maybe best make that change now if you want TDE stable release 4:14.1.5 ..

EDIT: Also, my thanks to the Trinity Desktop project, which has maintained packages for us since the early days of Devuan Jessie!

Could you please comment on the list of banned packages, in particular, libvirt* which is marked as C = excalibur-proposed-updates

Does this mean it will be "unbanned" and available for installation at some point?

Thank you.

Also the suggested migration to pipewire-audio appears to have been a good move - at least after having created the following file to auto-start the subsystem:

florian@nulldevice:~$ cat /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90pipewire-audio 
# kill any existing pipewire instance
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/wireplumber 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire 1>/dev/null 2>&1

exec /usr/bin/pipewire &

# wait for pipewire to start
while [ "$(pgrep -f /usr/bin/pipewire)" = "" ] ; do
   sleep 1
done

exec /usr/bin/wireplumber &
exec /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse &

(via https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/ … l#msg45598)

NB, as gimp 3 still seems not to provide an xsane plug-in: https://yingtongli.me/git/gimp-xsanecli works perfectly fine "for me" (resp. my 'lide 20' USB scanner) - I am tempted to say: better than ever!

florian@nulldevice:~$ head -n1 /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb cdrom:[devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_netinst]/ ascii main non-free

florian@nulldevice:~$ ssh nullmobil head -n1 /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb cdrom:[devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_netinst]/ ascii main non-free

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