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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Critical security flaw in sudo]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=58742#p58742</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>PCLinuxOS devs make the point quite well: <a href="https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201205/page11.html" rel="nofollow">https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201205/page11.html</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Nice. I know Old-P from back in the day, brilliant and ornery, lol, he and Bill were like a one-two punch of cantankerous, but I reckon all Linux folk are to some level. Good sense of humor though the both of them, I learned a lot from those guys. And i&#039;m still in agreement about sudo after all these years.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 17:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=58739#p58739</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I made good use of sudo while I was working as a UNIX systems admin. On a system with several users it can allow selected users to do things as root or another ID but not do anything really dangerous. The ability to get to a root shell was limited to admin staff who *should* know what they were doing. Sudo wasn&#039;t designed for systems with only 1 user.</p><p>Although it doesn&#039;t give quite such fine control as ACF2 on a MVS cum z/OS system. But that&#039;s a very different ball game.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (chris2be8)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 16:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=58738#p58738</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Exactly what it was written for.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Well it&#039;s kind of down to interpretation:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Sudo (su “do”) allows a system administrator to delegate authority to give certain users (or groups of users) the ability to run <strong>some (or all) commands as root or another user</strong> while providing an audit trail of the commands and their arguments. For more information, see the introduction to Sudo.</p></div></blockquote></div><p><a href="https://www.sudo.ws/" rel="nofollow">https://www.sudo.ws/</a></p><p>I think that sums it up well.&#160; But while the functionality to give a user the privileges to run all commands as root is there, that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean it&#039;s a good idea.&#160; It&#039;s just a statement of fact that it can be used for that (the rm command can also be used to delete <span class="bbu">all</span> of your files, or just one, for example).</p><p>sudo has been around for a very long time:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Sudo was first conceived and implemented by Bob Coggeshall and Cliff Spencer around 1980 at the Department of Computer Science at SUNY/Buffalo. It ran on a VAX-11/750 running 4.1BSD.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>So, yes not really needed for or designed for domestic / home users PCs.</p><p>Canonical/Ubuntu and a few others utilised it simply as a means to eliminate / hide the root account, in order to appease migrants from Windows, and to implement an environment with more &quot;hand holding&quot; (protecting users from themselves).&#160; This was all based on the idea that users new Linux would do stupid things, such as running an X session or file manager as root.&#160; From this you&#039;d get breakage, and inevitably &quot;back to Windows&quot;, which equates to bad press / reputation for the distribution - something Canonical as a commercial entity had wanted to avoid.</p><p>I would not rank sudo alongside other controversial or problematic software, such as systemd, wayland, pulseaudio, rust, etc...&#160; and in the grand scheme of things, sudo&#039;s security track record isn&#039;t bad, when compared to those and to the Linux kernel itself.</p><p>But, if you don&#039;t use it, then I believe it&#039;s wise to remove it - that is if you&#039;re certain it&#039;s not being used by a script you may use/depend on without knowing it.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (blackhole)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 15:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>blackhole wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... where you want to alliow someone to carry out a specific task ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Exactly what it was written for.<br />I have a long list in <span class="bbc">sudoers.d</span>, some with, some without PW, for myself.<br />As an added value, the auditing is also a helpful tool for remembering what was and when. </p><p>PCLinuxOS devs make the point quite well: <a href="https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201205/page11.html" rel="nofollow">https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201205/page11.html</a></p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 11:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=58727#p58727</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t see any point in sudo on a private destop/laptop PC, therefore I usually uninstall it (I hate it when distros make other essential packages unnecessarily depend on sudo, I&#039;m talking to you Manjaro...) or if it can&#039;t be uninstalled due to dependencies then i remove the suid permission from the sudo binary:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># ls -la /usr/bin/sudo
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 257136 Jun 30 18:25 /usr/bin/sudo*
[manjaro-vm testuser1]# chmod -s /usr/bin/sudo
[manjaro-vm testuser1]# ls -la /usr/bin/sudo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 257136 Jun 30 18:25 /usr/bin/sudo*</code></pre></div><p>After removing the suid permission it is a good idea to block sudo from being updated to avoid that the next update changes the permission back again.</p><p>Without the suid permission sudo becomes harmless and useless as it can&#039;t elevate it&#039;s privileges to root anymore.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (tux_99)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 10:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I was attempting to point out that sudo&#039;s record for vulnerabilities is considerably better than that of the Linux kernel, for example.</p><p>I think sudo has a bad press because of the association with Ubuntu - even though it was actually developed by an OpenBSD developer and the Ubuntu default configuration of sudo actually makes no sense, unless one specifically wants the auditing - otherwise su will suffice.</p><p>Aside from the above, sudo makes sense in settings where you want to alliow someone to carry out a specific task, which requires root privileges, without giving them root.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (blackhole)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 10:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@blackhole I suppose that could be a risk as well.</p><p>Truthfully, most software has vulnerabilities unless it doesn&#039;t connect to something that doesn&#039;t do anything online.</p><p>Although I suppose it could be more indirect than that.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (zapper)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2025 04:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>These were fixed back in June: <a href="https://git.sudo.ws/sudo/commit/?id=23aff2b37" rel="nofollow">https://git.sudo.ws/sudo/commit/?id=23aff2b37</a></p><p>To add some much needed perspective:</p><p><a href="https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/15714/" rel="nofollow">https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/15714/</a><br /><a href="https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/33/Linux.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/33/Linux.html</a></p><p>Yet none here seem concerned about running the Linux kernel...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2025 07:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I prefer doas myself to be honest.&#160; It is much less complicated but still has the functionality I need in sudo/su.</p><p>I use that even on devuan/gnuinos</p><p>With jwmkit combined with doas, I can shutdown properly or poweroff properly. </p><p>I cannot make heads or tails on how to do the same thing with sudo lol. There is just too much to sort out&#160; in that&#160; sudoers file </p><p>xD</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 05:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>^^ I literally have a T-shirt with the sudo make me a sandwich cartoon on it, found it in a secondhand store years ago.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 14:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@All, thanks for the timely rundown. visited the webpage @fsmithred linked and figured while i had the tab open i would slip in a little xkcd enjoyment...</p><p><a href="https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/149:_Sandwich" rel="nofollow"> so</a></p><p><a href="https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/838:_Incident" rel="nofollow"> enjoy</a></p><p>keyword(s): sudo make me a sandwich &amp; santa claus naughty list</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 04:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Fixed in trixie and forky/sid. (i.e. excalibur and freia/ceres) Older versions not affected. <br /><a href="https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2025-32463" rel="nofollow">https://security-tracker.debian.org/tra … 2025-32463</a></p><p>(I duck-searched the CVE with the words &#039;debian security&#039; - first hit.)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 22:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>greenjeans wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... reasonableness in a sea of chaos.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Nah ...<br />It was a fluke.</p><p>Probably remembered to take the green one this morning.<br />Or was it the red one? Can&#039;t recall.</p><p>That said, what&#039;s wrong with the proven and reliable <span class="bbc">chroot</span> that it now has to have such a useful <span class="bbu">feature</span>?<br />It never ends, does it?</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 20:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hehehehe . . . maybe more coffee? <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 20:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... did not write that quote.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Hmm ....<br /><span class="bbc">What&#039;chu talkin&#039; &#039;bout, Willis?</span></p><p>Oh, right ...<br />Taken care of.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 20:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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