Dev1 Galaxy Forum / Is systemd still bad in 2025?

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (Camtaf) — Fri, 15 Aug 2025 09:27:04 +0000

You could try -> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=57204#p57204

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (zapper) — Fri, 15 Aug 2025 05:57:58 +0000

@greenjeans probablt true.

@everyone

I wonder when devuan's next release will be out.

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Tue, 12 Aug 2025 21:42:24 +0000

Wrong person to ask. I am just the messenger sharing an image . . .

And if you "hate to be that guy", just don't be that guy. It's as simple as that!

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (recklessswing) — Tue, 12 Aug 2025 21:24:49 +0000

golinux

I hate to be that guy but, let's be fair. Most of those services aren't active by default right? Also, they seem to be doing one thing? If so, then isn't it more better for Unix philosphy?

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (greenjeans) — Tue, 12 Aug 2025 15:35:01 +0000

The problem of systemd is mainly that it never stops growing.
Although, its already bigger than it needs to be.

The entirety of the OS'es of all kinds has the same problem, and the rate of bloat is no longer linear.

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (zapper) — Tue, 12 Aug 2025 02:04:49 +0000

The problem of systemd is mainly that it never stops growing.

Although, its already bigger than it needs to be.

It should have been complete after one hundred thousand lines of code at minimum.

Its on its way to being as big as the original Windows NT. I read it has 6 million lines of code. Systemd has like 1 million at least.

The moment it surpasses NT is the moment people everywhere should realize the monster they made. (minimum if not sooner) With the exception of redhat and microsoft and similar, because they have no humility in this kind of thing.

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (Camtaf) — Mon, 11 Aug 2025 09:39:37 +0000

It seems to be usable - I use Raspberry Pi OS on a RPi5, which has it, but not as a particular choice, I have Devuan on my RPi4B.

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn) — Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:48:09 +0000

kicking the weeds a few days ago came across this good snippet from:
https://starbreaker.org/grimoire/entries/i-want-my-bsd/index.html

If I learned anything, it was the following:
GNU/Linux is mainly for people who dislike Microsoft and corporate Unix.
GNU/Linux + systemd is mainly for people who loathe Microsoft but miss Windows.
macOS is for people who dislike Windows and are OK with throwing money at problems.
The BSDs are for people who actually like Unix.
I’m not hardcore enough for Plan 9, and that’s probably OK.

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (ruenoak) — Mon, 11 Aug 2025 07:21:21 +0000

The systemd creep! Long has it been since systemd was just an init system, It's becoming an operating system.
DJ Ware released a video on this recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co_BAWycucw

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Mon, 11 Aug 2025 00:24:34 +0000

That graphic also keeps morphing as new systemd dependencies are introduced. Something like the green slime . . . LOL!

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (Dutch_Master) — Mon, 11 Aug 2025 00:21:21 +0000

I knew it was bad. Not it actually is that bad!

Re: Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Mon, 11 Aug 2025 00:14:05 +0000

Have a look at this graphic hairball and decide for yourself.

Is systemd still bad in 2025?

dummy@example.com (recklessswing) — Sun, 10 Aug 2025 23:40:41 +0000

Is it? As a desktop user, is systemd still as bad? Although I have a media server at home too at one point, running Devuan. I rarely need to write init scripts. Most things work. Only pipewire is a little problem but I proposed a fix for that too. Check my past.