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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>chris2be8 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... df -k /var/run/ and ls -lid /var/run</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Like you said:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>~$ df -k /var/run
Filesystem     1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on tmpfs               # tmpfs
806412   832    805580   1% /run
~$ </code></pre></div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>~$ ls -lid /var/run
913937 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 May 21  2017 /var/run -&gt; /run                # symlink
~$ </code></pre></div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>~$ lsattr /etc/resolv.conf
lsattr: Operation not supported While reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf      # same error with [chattr +i]
~$ </code></pre></div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>~$ lsattr /var/run/connman/resolv.conf
---------------------- /var/run/connman/resolv.conf
~$ </code></pre></div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>~$ lsattr /run/connman/resolv.conf
---------------------- /run/connman/resolv.conf
~$ </code></pre></div><p>Like I said before, with respect to <span class="bbc">connman</span> and what it does with <span class="bbc">/etc/resolv.conf</span>:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I am not at all happy with not knowing what is going and exactly why.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2024 19:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Try <span class="bbc">df -k /var/run/</span> and <span class="bbc">ls -lid /var/run</span><br />On my system /var/run/ is a symlink to /run which is a tmpfs. So it&#039;s contents will be re-created at every reboot, which will make the -i flag vanish (tmpfs is a filesystem that only exists in ram).</p><p>That would explain why chattr -i didn&#039;t seem to work. Checking with lsattr might be interesting too.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (chris2be8)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2024 16:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Gregory348 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... a conflict between Connman and NetworkManager ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No, not that.</p><p>Turns out that <span class="bbc">NetworkManager</span> at some time in the distant past, left a few remnants.<br />It was not installed and hence not running. See post <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=52246#p52246" rel="nofollow">#1</a>.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Gregory348 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... check if /etc/resolv.conf is still being rewritten.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Well ...</p><p><em>That</em> is the mystery still afoot.<br />Since my last post, my box has been rebooted no less that 3 / 4 times a day for the last week or so.<br />And for all those reboots <em>and</em> time it was on-line (up to seven hours a day) <span class="bbc">connman</span> has (knock wood) seen it fit to leave my <span class="bbc">/etc/resolv.conf</span> alone.&#160; </p><p>But here&#039;s the thing®: I have <span class="bbu">no idea</span> why.<br />ie: attempting to apply <span class="bbc">+i chattr</span> to <span class="bbc">/etc/resolv.conf</span>, tis last file being a symlink to <span class="bbc">/var/run/connman//etc/resolv.conf</span> only gets an error message.<br />So I don&#039;t think what seemed to be the <em>accepted</em> solution took hold.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Gregory348 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... running: <span class="bbc">systemctl status NetworkManager.</span></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Hmm ...<br /><span class="bbc">systemctl</span>?&#160; -&gt; surely you jest ...</p><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2024 16:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Main:It seems like you have a conflict between Connman and NetworkManager.Connman often runs in the background, even if NetworkManager is active Try uninstalling Connman if you don’t need it: apt remove connman.Then check if /etc/resolv.conf is still being rewritten.Supplement:I had a similar issue after an upgrade.WiCD can also cause confusion if it was previously installedCheck what’s running: systemctl status NetworkManager.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Gregory348)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2024 07:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@rbit . . . Thanks for catching that. Fixed . . .</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that, golinux.&#160; (btw your link is off, but I found the post from the title.&#160; just add a &quot;2&quot; to the end of your link -- id=6842).</p><p>:-)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rbit)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2024 14:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@rbit . . . Check out this post:</p><p><span class="bbu"><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6842" rel="nofollow">wicd is back from the dead</a></span></p><p>FWIW, I am also a wired user but still miss wicd.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2024 01:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I know this topic&#039;s &quot;solved.&quot;&#160; I just have a comment related to something that you brought up a few times in this thread, and that&#039;s wicd.&#160; A few weeks ago (maybe a month, it&#039;s hard to keep track of time), during some periods of spare time, I attempted to get wicd to run on python3 with devuan daedalus.&#160; Made a fair amount of progress, but as of yet it is still nonfunctional.&#160; Haven&#039;t messed with it for probably 2 weeks now, but I may return to it, if/when I have the time.&#160; There&#039;s a lot of things that have changed with python and gtk... and I&#039;m not a python programmer so some parts are a bit confusing.&#160; I primarily use my desktop on wired network anyway, no real need for network-manager or connman or wicd there.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rbit)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2024 01:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>What is going on?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Getting back on track as per my OP.</p><p>1.<br />any <span class="bbc">NetworkManager</span> files present in my system while that package was <em>not</em> installed can only be adscribed to remnants from either <span class="bbc">Jesse</span> or <span class="bbc">ascii</span> - cannot come up with any other explanation.</p><p>2.<br />evidently both <span class="bbc">NetworkManager</span> and <span class="bbc">connman</span> take the liberty of screwing around with <span class="bbc">/etc/resolv.conf</span> which explains the banner left behind by the first.</p><p>With respect to whatever/however it is that <span class="bbc">connman</span> screws around with <span class="bbc">/etc/resolv.conf</span>, I have not been able to find a clear answer.<br />Yes, it does edit/replace the file but when and why is still a mystery.</p><p>To wit:<br />Applying <span class="bbc">chattr +i</span> as sudo/root did not work and <span class="bbc">connman</span> kept on changing my local DNS setting for my FO provider&#039;s.<br />This in spite of the local DNS address being set both in the FO provider&#039;s router <em>and</em> in the <span class="bbc">connman</span> settings page.</p><p>And then, all of a sudden ...<br />... It has stopped doing it.</p><p>Why?<br />No idea.<br />Maybe it has a mind of its own?&#160; 8^°</p><p>The thing is that my local DNS setting has remained as required by me for ~ 48 hours and survived at least a half dozen reboots.<br />If it acts up again, I will just nuke the symlink and reinstate <span class="bbc">/etc/resolv.conf</span> as a text file.&#160; </p><p>But still ...<br />I am not at all happy with not knowing what is going and exactly why.<br />Much less with applying brute force (chattr +i) to keep it from happening.</p><p>So I am planning to approach the solution suggested by Ralph.Ronnquist: use <span class="bbc">ifupdown</span>.</p><p>I found an interesting <a href="https://lecorbeausvault.wordpress.com/2021/09/09/debian-using-ifup-ifdown-for-network-connections/" rel="nofollow">page</a> with what seem to be a set of comprehensive instructions to make the conversion to <span class="bbc">ifupdown</span>.</p><p>But I&#039;ll have to study them before taking any action but I think it is <em>definitely</em> a step in the right direction.</p><p>Thank you very much to all those who pitched in.<br />Marking this one solved.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 23:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I&#039;ve never had a problem with connman.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (stopAI)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 15:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>When you say &quot;no network manager at all&quot; you actually mean &quot;just using ifupdown&quot;.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>... Whatever got installed with cinnamon with --no-install-recommends, no additional packages.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rolfie)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 13:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m still using ifupdown, and agree that it&#039;s the easiest with maximal flexibility. The other network managers just get in my way.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (quickfur)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 03:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>When you say &quot;no network manager at all&quot; you actually mean &quot;just using ifupdown&quot;. That is the traditional network management which is configured by means of a text editor to edit its configuration files... It is indeed the simplest and easiest way with maximal flexibility.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ralph.ronnquist)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2024 22:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, my workstation is a new installation (multiboot, paralell to a working Chimaera) of an early Daedalus preview before the release, no upgrade. Simple netinstall, fixed IP, just basic system utilities. AFAIK I just checked the resolv.conf, and did not need to change it. Manual installation of xorg, lightdm and cinnamon with --no-install-recommends, and everything else just as I needed it. No network manager at all.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rolfie)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2024 21:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>rolfie wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>connman isn&#039;t installed on my workstation ...<br />... it just has LAN</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I see ...</p><p>When I left a shared WiFi arrangement to get an ADSL and then went on to fibre, I kept <span class="bbc">WiCD</span> and a network management application (whatever came with Daedalus as default when I upgraded from Beowulf/Chimaera) just to be able to use a wifi spot nearby, just in case fibre goes down.</p><p>But 99% of the time I am using LAN, just like you.<br />Maybe I should look into doing just that ...&#160; 8^°</p><p>If you could share your how-to I&#039;d be very obliged.</p><p>Thanks in advance.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2024 20:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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