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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49658#p49658</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>When installing the package <span class="bbc">usrmerge</span> it will try to change the file system so that some root directories get changed into symbolic links for the same-named directories in <span class="bbc">/usr</span>; those are what I call the &quot;silly-links&quot;.</p><p>Unfortunately the <span class="bbc">usrmerge</span> developers seemingly opted for going about this in the worst way possible, so the installation of <span class="bbc">usrmerge</span> is likely to fail successively, requiring some amount of operator hands-on and reinstallation. Once installed, it gets replaced with the <span class="bbc">usr-is-merged</span> package as indicator or flag for apt/dpkg to not install <span class="bbc">usrmerge</span> again, ever.</p><p>All in all, it&#039;s better and almost necessary (esp for avoiding that operator hands-on) when shifting to excalibur, to install <span class="bbc">usrmerge</span> on daedalus, i.e. before actually shifting. There is no technical difference difference between having or not having silly-links, except for the cases where a package installs binaries with a <span class="bbc">/bin</span> path and then uses them on a <span class="bbc">/usr/bin</span> path or vice versa (looking at you, <span class="bbc">busybox</span>), in which case silly-links are required.</p><p>If you want to set up silly-links yourself you only have to make sure that the pathnames <span class="bbc">/lib*</span> get copied and replaced with their links in &quot;atomic steps&quot;; i.e. you cannot use a shell script that separates &quot;rm /lib&quot; from &quot;ln -sTf usr/lib /lib&quot; specifically because the script intepreter&#039;s running of &quot;ln&quot; will require that the ELF-loader is found on its &quot;/lib/..&quot; path. (It&#039;s pretty obvious how to work around that though, for example by using <span class="bbc">busybox-static</span> or , say, <span class="bbc">newlisp</span>).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 20:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49656#p49656</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Which was instructed in the link I posted yesterday . . . sigh . . .</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 19:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49655#p49655</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>No, running the usrmerge installation will become mandatory with Debian 13/Devuan 6. There is NO way to avoid this. Lots of fighting and bitching, but no help, its a Debian project decision, and they are pulling all roots for not merging now during development. </p><p>Running with Daedalus on my workstation, I have set up two VMs with Excalibur based on Daedalus cli installations about 6 months ago. My first step before changing the sources to Excalibur was to run usrmerge as it is recommended now in the documentation. And both of them work well.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rolfie)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 18:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49654#p49654</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>thank you rolfie for your wise words, you should only use testing if you are willing to contribute to this phase.<br />there are numerous people on this forum, experienced commendable people, saying install usrmerge.<br />this is not a good idea.<br />correct me if I am wrong but usr-is-merged dummy package is what you should do.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (bilhook)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 17:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49627#p49627</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Did you not see this link that I posted yesterday?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ve seen this if you&#039;re worried. I just figured that my main system continued to work because it looked like I did not have this package installed. However, I anyway have /bin, /lib (/lib32 and /lib64), and /sbin folders merged with /usr.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (themouse)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 04:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49620#p49620</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Did you not see this link that I posted yesterday?<br /><span class="bbu">UsrMerge Status: Testing/Excalibur and more</span></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49619#p49619</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>One possible reason might be the package &#039;usrmerge&#039;.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s it! I got dpkg errors related to usrmerge, ntfs-3g and sane-utils.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (themouse)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49618#p49618</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>I installed Devuan Daedalus on the virtual machine and tried to upgrade it to Ceres, but it was bricked</p></div></blockquote></div><p>One possible reason might be the package &#039;usrmerge&#039;. These days it should be installed before changing to ceres.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (delgado)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49617#p49617</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#039;t solved it anyway. I started to use Devuan Stable again. I hope this will be fixed in time, too.<br />Before, I installed Devuan Daedalus on the virtual machine and tried to upgrade it to Ceres, but it was bricked and I got Busybox. This finally forced me to return to the stable branch.<br />Maybe, I&#039;ll file a bug report later, I&#039;ll leave a link here if I do this.<br />If somebody has encountered this problem too, I am sorry for this inconvenience, I somehow feel uncomfortable about this topic...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (themouse)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49610#p49610</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The solution is to wait for the solution ..... Have you raised a bug report? It may be fixed in the future.</p><p>The solution will come some day.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rolfie)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49609#p49609</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Let&#039;s not forget, I wanted to ask for a solution from somebody who has encountered these problems too.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (themouse)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49608#p49608</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I exactly understand you. However, I don&#039;t have any reason to install Testing or Ceres anyway. Just wanted to get new software releases and expect that the testing branch may be more stable than Sid. But I mentioned, sometimes I like to do experiments and like getting more hassles, you know.<br />But <span class="bbu">I didn&#039;t find</span> any information on the Internet about any issues I got, that&#039;s <span class="bbu">unpleasant</span>. However, I am always done to reinstall the operating system if something happens, thanks to the ability to create a separate /home partition, but reinstallation of software is another task...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (themouse)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur/Ceres started to work slowly after the recent update]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49607#p49607</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you want a stable system with minimum hasle stay with Daedalus. </p><p>If you are ready for the unexpected, try Excalibur or Testing, and for the often broken, try Ceres or Unstable. Freshly updated/developed packages first land in Unstable, when they have sort of proven to generally work, they may be forwarded to Testing. </p><p>Testing some day becomes Stable, but currently this is about 2 years to go. </p><p>You only should use Testing if you are ready to accept uneven ground and if you are willing to contribute to this phase, or if you have a good reason to do so, i.e. you have so new hardware that its supported in Testing only. Something for the experienced user. And Unstable will be even rougher. </p><p>Just my two cents ...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rolfie)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49606#p49606</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, this package was already installed even before the updates. And I hadn&#039;t any problems related to /usr merge. Your advice to make backups is really useful in this situation.<br />But what am I supposed to do with an already broken distro? I had already reinstalled my Devuan on my main computer which I didn&#039;t want to do. But I like to do experiments anyway...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (themouse)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49605#p49605</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the forum!</p><p>Testing (Excalibur)&#160; and unstable are very unreliable at this time partly due to the usrmerge. Have a look at the announcement:<br /><span class="bbu"><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6435" rel="nofollow">UsrMerge Status: Testing/Excalibur and more</a></span></p><p>Other issues are also discussed on this very forum.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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