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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><p>A rather belated update.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>pcalvert wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... now would be a good time to do so.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Good times, bad times ...<br />Edie Brikell comes to mind.</p><p><em>Finally</em> got my new fibre link installed so I went ahead with that.<br />Worked prefectly well.</p><p>Thank you very much.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2024 21:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><p>@czeekaj</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>czeekaj wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>For wireless I&#039;d use this.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Had a look, will put it into the list of possible replacements.</p><p>@pcalvert</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>pcalvert wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Did you try connman ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No, not yet.</p><p>The thing is that I am still <em>on the fence</em> as to whether to go through with the <span class="bbc">Beowulf</span> -&gt; <span class="bbc">Chimaera</span>, among other things because I am not sure I want to suffer the new version of <span class="bbc">xfce4</span>, more so with the upgrade itself being rather problematic.</p><p>I think I&#039;ll wait this transition out for a while longer.</p><p>Thank you both for your input, much appreciated.&#160; 8^)</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2024 01:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Did you try <em>connman</em>, like I suggested here?:</p><p><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=48061#p48061" rel="nofollow">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=48061#p48061</a></p><p>If not, now would be a good time to do so.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (pcalvert)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2024 00:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://gitea.devuan.org/devuan/setnet" rel="nofollow">https://gitea.devuan.org/devuan/setnet</a></p><p>For wireless I&#039;d use this. It would be pretty hard to break like wicd does with python 2 getting marked as depreciated. much like the old obmenu needing python 3.7. You can still install old dependencies from beowulf but again it probably got removed for a reason in newer releases.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (czeekaj)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2024 03:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>aluma wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... already demonstrated to you what wicd works in Dedaulus.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I remember.<br />Thanks for that. 8^)</p><p>But now the problem at hand is <em>first</em> being able to make a <span class="bbu">painless</span> move from <span class="bbc">Beowulf</span> to <span class="bbc">Chimaera</span>.<br />Incredibly enough, there were no issues with <span class="bbc">wine</span>, my MS based <span class="bbc">Pegasus Mail</span> email client or the unsupported legacy Nvidia <span class="bbc">340.108</span> drivers.</p><p>Upgrading to Daedalus is not in my sights at this moment.<br />Whatever for?&#160; &#160;&lt;- which remains an unanswered question somewhere in my <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6467" rel="nofollow">OP</a>.</p><p>My <span class="bbc">WiCD</span> setup/configuration did not survive the upgrade, probably due to (surprise, surprise!) <span class="bbc">xfce4</span>.</p><p>I use WiCD to switch on/off my <span class="bbc">eth0</span> connection with just a click as well as being able to get up and running (via my friendly neighbour&#039;s WiFi) in under 5&#039; should something happen with my ADSL line, the router or the braindead AHs who run the local telco <em>improvement and modernising</em> departments. <br />So, at least for me, it is not just for WiFi.</p><p>I may have to switch to <span class="bbc">MATE</span> or directly to <span class="bbc">Openbox</span> but the lack of an easy to use configuration tool is a bit of an issue for me.</p><p>I seem to recall (?) that there was a script (somewhere) which would generate a <span class="bbc">#!</span> type desktop without much ado.<br />Can&#039;t remember now, maybe it was related to something Hoas wrote up.</p><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 23:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Wicd was removed from Debian Bullseye as it requires python 2.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>File INSTALL from wicd-1.7.4.tar.gz</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Installation of Wicd should be done using your distribution package if one<br />exists.&#160; If not, the installation is relatively straightforward, but there<br />are a few dependencies:<br />&#160; 1. python (&gt;=2.4, &lt;3.0)<br />&#160; 2. pygtk (&gt;=2.10)</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I have already demonstrated to you what wicd works in Dedaulus.</p><p>P.S.But regarding the &quot;bloated&quot; networkmanager.<br />Wicd can only control one account&#160; Wi-Fi, NM capabilities are available.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 17:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>delgado wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... Chimaera has wicd.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Hmm ... <br />Not really.<br />Have a look <a href="https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&amp;q=wicd=1.7.4+tb2-6+devuan2" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Origin: Devuan<br />Description: wired and wireless network manager - transitional package</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That is a WiCD package only <span class="bbu">by name</span>.<br />It is a transitional package that works as a front end to install any one of its listed dependencies:<br />ie: <span class="bbc">network-manager-gnome</span> | <span class="bbc">network-manager</span> | <span class="bbc">connman-gtk</span> | <span class="bbc">cmst</span> | <span class="bbc">connman-ui<br /></span></p><p>From the README.Devuan file:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Wicd was removed from Debian Bullseye as it requires python 2.<br />This transitional package ensures that users upgrading from Devuan Beowulf get an <span class="bbu">alternative</span>* network manager installed. It can safely be removed.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>* underline is mine.</p><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 16:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I wish . . . but sadly I had to let wicd go when I moved to Chimaera but since I am always wired it doesn&#039;t really matter.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 16:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The title is &quot;Beowuf to Chimaera&quot;, but you mean to Daedalus, right?<br />Otherwise, Chimaera has wicd.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 14:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><p>This is a follow up on <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6467" rel="nofollow">this</a> post.<br />More than anything to avoid excessive length and muddling up.</p><p>To make a first, quick test run, I booted up my box via a Daedalus 5.0 desktop-live *.iso and and generated an *.img file of my system drive.<br />That done, I restored that *.img file to an empty, larger drive sitting in one of the cage sleds.</p><p>That worked prefectly well, the restored image taking up its space leaving unallocated space untouched.<br />Being a test, I chanced using gnome <span class="bbc">disks</span> which surprised me, but then this is a vintage/non-UEFI rig.</p><p>I then set up the BIOS to boot from the drive where the newly restored image was residing so that the system would not touch it.</p><p>Once I rebooted the box, I checked and found that everything was working as expected and nothing seemed to be amiss.<br />A bit slower as my system drive is a Samsung 120Gb SSD and this is just an older 300Gb SAS drive.</p><p>I then followed the instructions on <a href="https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/upgrade-to-chimaera" rel="nofollow">this</a> page at Dev1.<br />Clear and straightforward enough, as always/usual. </p><p>Being on a WiFi connection, the whole thing took around 45/60 minutes or so, didn&#039;t bother to time it.</p><p>But after rebooting I found that my <span class="bbc">xfce</span> desktop settings had all gone south, the panels were empty and I no longer had WiFi access.<br />ie: I had no way (interface) of making the bloated POS <span class="bbc">network-manager</span> work.</p><p>It seems that the <span class="bbc">xfce</span> upgrade signifficanly screws up most if not <em>all</em> previous settings.<br />Why am I not at all surpridsed?</p><p>Eventually and after much trial and error, I managed to bring up a WiFi connection via command line to complete something that had not been updated/upgraded correctly.</p><p>But after rebooting even <span class="bbc">nmtui</span> refused to connect to the very same WiFi I could <span class="bbu">instantly</span> connect to with WiCD/Devuan Beowulf in my Asus 1000HE netbook. Yes, all credentials were correct and I have always been able to connected both machines to the router at the same time. </p><p>That said, I think that if I want to ge this right, the <span class="bbu">first</span> thing I need to do is find a proper replacement for <span class="bbc">WiCD</span>.<br />ie: one that works like <span class="bbc">WiCD</span>, that I can bring up and use to connect to whatever I need/want to use (wired or wlan) without any hassle.</p><p>Just like I can do today with <span class="bbc">WiCD</span> in Devuan Beowulf.<br />&#160; &#160; <br />On the bright side of things, SLiM worked as expected, my screen setup worked as usual (nvidia drivers) and even <span class="bbc">wine</span> brought up my email client (Pegasus Mail) with no issues.</p><p>But <span class="bbc">xfce</span> and <span class="bbc">network-manager</span> absolutely screwed up, ruining the show.</p><p>I am now back to my original system drive thinking about what to do.</p><p>Any comments will be welcome.</p><p>Thanks in advance,</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p><p><span class="bbu">BTW:</span> writing up this post took me a while, as a result, the timeout no one else suffers from kicked in. Still don&#039;t know why or how this happens.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 12:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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