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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan daedalus newby questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46819#p46819</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>My apologies steve_v,<br />I just got back to my Devuan system and the only line in my sources list was:<br />deb <a href="http://deb.devuan.org/merged" rel="nofollow">http://deb.devuan.org/merged</a> daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware<br />I have since added the lines suggested on <a href="https://www.devuan.org/os/packages" rel="nofollow">https://www.devuan.org/os/packages</a> and was able to install dma.<br />Hopefully that will cure at least one problem.<br />There are others that Iĺl have to chase down, like where does whether to start with the CL or Xwindows.</p><p>Thanks for your help.<br />Mike</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2024 18:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan daedalus newby questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46815#p46815</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Mike wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Did you get dma as a Devuan package?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Of course, and the link I dropped points to the Devuan package index.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>$ apt show dma
Package: dma
Version: 0.13-1+b1
Priority: optional
Section: mail
Source: dma (0.13-1)
Maintainer: Arno Töll &lt;arno@debian.org&gt;
Installed-Size: 165 kB
Provides: mail-transport-agent
Depends: ucf (&gt;= 0.28), debconf (&gt;= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, libc6 (&gt;= 2.33), libssl3 (&gt;= 3.0.0)
Conflicts: mail-transport-agent
Replaces: mail-transport-agent
Homepage: https://github.com/corecode/dma
Tag: implemented-in::c, interface::daemon, mail::smtp, mail::transport-agent,
 protocol::smtp, protocol::ssl, role::program, works-with::mail
Download-Size: 52.1 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages
Description: lightweight mail transport agent</code></pre></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>Mike wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Perhaps you would post here what&#039;s in yours.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Sure:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware</code></pre></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2024 17:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Devuan daedalus newby questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46809#p46809</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Steve_v,<br />You said, &quot;I quite like dma.&quot;<br />I tried to install it but jno joy, doesn&#039;t show up in .../dplg/available.<br />Did you get dma as a Devuan package?</p><p>I&#039;m not on that system now so can&#039;t post sources.list but think it correct.<br />Perhaps you would post here what&#039;s in yours.</p><p>Thanks, <br />Mike</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Mike)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2024 14:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46800#p46800</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Mike wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>What does Devuan supply for an MTA? Most of the distributions I have used in the past used exim, later exim4. but thatś huge and over kill for a single user system.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The default MTA is still exim4, and the same alternatives are available as in Debian. For single-user systems with an external smtp server I quite like <a href="https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&amp;q=dma" rel="nofollow">dma</a>.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Mike wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Since Devuan is derived from Debian is there a problem taking packages from the Debian repositories?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The vast majority of packages in Devuan <em>are</em> Debian packages, so while you can install most things from the Debian repos (bearing DontBreakDebian in mind), there&#039;s usually no reason to.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Mike wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I find /etc/systemd/system well populated.<br />Will I break the system if I delete /etc/systemd/ ?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Almost certainly not, they&#039;re just unit files that came with packages merged from Debian (see above). There&#039;s no reason to delete them (or filter them out to begin with) though, as they do nothing by themselves.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Mike wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>tasksel installed 1159 packages, not files but packages. Is there a simple way to delete all those packages and start over?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Just like Debian, tasksel is &quot;everything and the kitchen sink&quot; mode, especially with recommends enabled. The usual Debian solutions apply - i.e. installing only what you actually want.<br />As for removing things, &quot;start over&quot; depends on where you started from, no? The task-desktop and lxde metapackages might be a good start, or go over the apt / dpkg logs and build a list.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Mike wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Several times I have tried to install a package only to find there is nothing available, could that be because I opted for 64 bit daedalus rather than 32 bit?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I doubt it, i386 and amd64 contain an almost identical set of packages. More likely you don&#039;t have all the sections enabled in your sources...<br />Kinda hard to guess from here when you don&#039;t mention which packages you&#039;re talking about though.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2024 00:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have never use tasksel to install stuff; maybe <em>once</em> when doing a fresh install. But afterwards I always find too many needless packages that I have to clean up after the fact.</p><p>These days, I just install an absolutely bare minimum base system, and then incrementally install packages that I know I&#039;ll need (--no-install-recommends is your friend here). Generally metapackages like libreoffice or xorg are good granular enough you don&#039;t end up with <em>too</em> many stray packages afterwards. But even for the latter I often only install individual packages (and their absolutely necessary dependencies).&#160; It&#039;s a bit more work than one might be used to, though.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2024 00:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[[SOLVED] Devuan daedalus newby questions]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Iĺl start here:<br />mike@DevuanPI4b:~&gt; uname -a<br />Linux MikesDevuanPI 6.1.69 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 26 04:09:31 CET 2023 aarch64 GNU/Linux</p><p>This install doesn´t come with an MTA and ´grep ¨MTA\|mail&quot;.../dpkg/packages gives me nothing.<br />What does Devuan supply for an MTA? Most of the distributions I have used in the past used exim, later exim4. but thatś huge and over kill for a single user system.</p><p>Since Devuan is derived from Debian is there a problem taking packages from the Debian repositories?</p><p>I installed Devuan primarily due to the claim it doesn´t depend on systemd yet I find /etc/systemd/system well populated.<br />Will I break the system if I delete /etc/systemd/ ?</p><p>After struggling to find a way to get an X window up I finally installed LXDE, boy was I flabergasted to see tasksel installed 1159 packages, not files but packages. Is there a simple way to delete all those packages and start over?</p><p>Several times I have tried to install a package only to find there is nothing available, could that be because I opted for 64 bit daedalus rather than 32 bit?</p><p>Thanks,<br />Mike</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Mike)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2024 23:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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