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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Bookworm -> Daedalus migration nscd network-manager failed]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46632#p46632</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sorry, I misunderstood twice that it was required. First in the sticky, then in here.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (paculino)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2023 20:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Bookworm -> Daedalus migration nscd network-manager failed]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46616#p46616</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>paculino wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I do not think libsystemd0 is harmful</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, it is just an annoyance but removing it would be wasted effort for no benefit. That&#039;s why it may still present in Devuan. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>paculino wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>but I seem to be unable to have it, as holding it when installed would not allow installing these packages (well, dummy-elogind allowed some of them, but not all).</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Unless something has changed, there is no need to have libsystemd0 present in Devuan.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2023 15:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Bookworm -> Daedalus migration nscd network-manager failed]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46607#p46607</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that is the one I read; task-mate-desktop kept removing libsystemd0. Now, when I try to install libsystemd0, it wants to remove task-mate-desktop, mate-desktop-environment, mate-desktop-environment-core, caja, gvfs-backends, mate-applets, gvfs, gvfs-daemons, gvfs-fuse, udisks2, network-manager-gnome, network-manager, libpam-elogind, and libelogind-compat<br />I am currently booted without libsystemd0 because it apparently conflicts, either directly or indirectly, with these packages. I do not think libsystemd0 is harmful, but I seem to be unable to have it, as holding it when installed would not allow installing these packages (well, dummy-elogind allowed some of them, but not all).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (paculino)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2023 05:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Bookworm -> Daedalus migration nscd network-manager failed]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46604#p46604</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>This this forum post titled <span class="bbu"><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1925" rel="nofollow">Why are systemd files present in Devuan?</a></span> will help you understand that those files that are bothering you are harmless and necessary. Note that I posted that statement but did not write it. Take care . . .</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2023 02:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Bookworm -> Daedalus migration nscd network-manager failed]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46602#p46602</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Alright, I&#039;ve had it fixed for a day, but I just now fixed the DE and halfway fixed the internet. Thank you everyone.</p><p>I misunderstood the <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1925" rel="nofollow">sticky on systemd</a> mentioning libsystemd0 being used sometimes to determine if systemd was running, and thought that this package was necessary, so I tried to use the dummy-elogind, but this would not allow some packages that were part of task-mate-desktop, so I had a partial de install and dummy-elogind. Fortunately, I figured it out when I looked into what would break when I removed libsystemd0. My wifi applet does not work (that is okay; I don&#039;t necessarily need a gui for it as long as it works), but I followed the excellent <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6283" rel="nofollow">guide</a> by quickfir and got it working (the only difference was I had to use apt-file to locate iwconfig and ifup... now they work). If I have time next semester, I may try to edit the applet to get a gui method for this workaround.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (paculino)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2023 02:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Bookworm -> Daedalus migration nscd network-manager failed]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46587#p46587</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I would check that sysvinit is installed (and running if booted):</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>apt list --installed | grep sysvinit-core
apt list --installed | grep systemd</code></pre></div><p>Obviously, there should be sysvinit-core and no systemd. Then:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>apt update
apt -s upgrade
apt upgrade
apt -s dist-upgrade
apt dist-upgrade</code></pre></div><p>usually did it (without forcing or expicit de-installs). <br />The <span class="bbc">apt -s</span> lines are optional. They do a simulation to spot problems. It might be tricky to solve dependencies in an interrupted migration.</p><p>Some programs will be de-installed during migration, so there is stuff to re-install.<br />And optional clean-up at the end: <span class="bbc">apt clean</span> and/or <span class="bbc">apt autoremove</span></p><p>--<br />PS: Booted installtion with sysvinit:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>$ ps ax | head -2
  PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND
    1 ?        Ss     0:00 init [2]</code></pre></div><p>In case of systemd: PID 1 is &quot;/sbin/init&quot;</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (delgado)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2023 11:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Bookworm -> Daedalus migration nscd network-manager failed]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46583#p46583</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! Should I continue where I left off, or do I need to force upgrade the packages that did not upgrade and then reboot again?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (paculino)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2023 00:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Bookworm -> Daedalus migration nscd network-manager failed]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46582#p46582</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Continuing the migration in a chroot should work. I would do so too.&#160; &#160;</p><p>Network-manager most likely needs updated configuration after migration (see below).</p><p>--<br />Remembering the migration of my notebook to chimaera: <br />One thing that happens during migration is: The network-device&#039;s name changes (from forgotten) to &quot;wlan0&quot; in case of wifi.<br />The network-manager&#039;s config files were still pointing to the prior device name. This was the reason for &quot;no network connection&quot;.<br />The alternative to reconfigure network-manager was to restore the prior network device names:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># echo &#039;GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=&quot;net.ifnames=1&quot;&#039; &gt;&gt;/etc/default/grub
# update-grub
# reboot</code></pre></div><p>Using update-grub may or may not be a bad idea in your multi-boot case.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (delgado)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2023 00:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Bookworm -> Daedalus migration nscd network-manager failed]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46547#p46547</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Today I started to migrate my Debian bookworm installation (using stable, updates, security, and one package from backports) to daedalus. In preparation, I fully cloned it and booted into both the original and the clone using the grub installed in my old KDE Neon install (which I am now using). After seeing that both worked, I followed the <a href="https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/daedalus/bookworm-to-daedalus" rel="nofollow">migration guide</a>. Initially, after the apt upgrade, I noticed that a few packages were upgradable but not upgraded (dbus-bin, dbus-daemon, dbus-x11, dbus, libdbs-1-3, and init... also octave*). However, looking ahead I saw -f install, rebooting, purging, and autocleaning, so thought that maybe this was as intended. I suspect this is where I made a mistake. Installing eudev and sysvinit-core did force init to install without me manually doing that. Rebooting after the -f install I had a headless install, as expected (I use mate), but it said at the top </p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>startpar: services returned failure: nscd network-manager . . . failed</code></pre></div><p>* octave is upgradable but not upgraded since I edited the .deb from the debian repo to remove the gui since I use geany for it and have no qt except on the neon install; I highly doubt this has any effect but am telling out of precaution</p><p>Now, what would be the safest way to continue? I chrooted into it to get that list of upgradable and not upgraded packages (I&#039;m lazy and didn&#039;t write it down), and could install that way, similar to installing enough packages to set up wifi on a debootstrap-install. Alternatively, I could download the remaining packages and install them when truly booted into that install (well, efibootmgr will say I&#039;m booted into neon since I&#039;m using this grub to avoid ambiguities for the time being, but I assume it is okay since grub gets me in the correct one). I do not like the other options of using the clone or cloning the clone over this attempt, because I want to keep at least one working debian/devuan install at all times and cloning takes a day and a half. Is it safe to continue the migration from a chroot (since I already rebooted), at least enough to get wifi working? This is my preferred method as it is easiest.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (paculino)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2023 01:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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