one question. which init has the xfce iso live version?

Same as the installer isos sysvinit.

No. But you can download and add KDE after installation.

and is there also a kde iso live version?

ok i wanted to try and test

devuan_daedalus_5.0.0_amd64_desktop-live

but after boot there is black terminal screen and askin login and passwort.

is that normal?

The desktop live iso may have been sufficient to launch a desktop environment, but you can always install one.  Setup your timezone and other useful settings with menu-config, update your system, and then run tasksel:

sudo menu-config
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
sudo tasksel

In tasksel, you can choose to install "Devuan desktop environment" and various different desktop environments, including KDE.
You might have to fix something with debconf, in my experience, if there is a failure with tasksel.  Maybe someone reading this could explain why the following fix_db.pl instruction might help. This tended to maybe just happen if I hadn't updated the system first, in my experience, and if I recall correctly:

sudo ./usr/share/debconf/fix_db.pl

Then:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
sudo reboot

That could save you or others from trying to reinstall a system.  Tasksel is useful for netinstalls, and I suppose it shouldn't be necessary for Desktop live isos like yours unless one wants to use it to perform a quick, handy installation of additional desktop environments.

ok i wanted to try and test

devuan_daedalus_5.0.0_amd64_desktop-live

but after boot there is black terminal screen and askin login and passwort.

is that normal?

normally the iso distros starts fully till i the the kde, xfce desktop.

The live-desktop passwords are in the a text file from the download page...
https://devuan.rosset.eu.org/devuan-fil … p-live.txt

You can burn the iso to DVD or use dd or cat to image a USB thumb drive.

User name: devuan		Password: devuan
Admin name: root		Password: toor 

Maintained by fsmithred (key id 0xA73823D3094C5620 on pgp.mit.edu)
Built with the Devuan SDK, live-sdk module by jaromil and parazyd...

Generally, You wont need to login as a user, it should boot all the way to the desktop without asking, only root needs a PW.

If it won't boot, ... did you verify the download before you wrote it to a usb?

All the best.

ok i wanted to try and test

devuan_daedalus_5.0.0_amd64_desktop-live

but after boot there is black terminal screen and askin login and passwort.

is that normal?

normally the iso distros starts fully till i the the kde, xfce desktop.

sounds to be in tty

don't know what you've done
best to try once more

devuan_daedalus_5.0.0_amd64_desktop-live

but after boot there is black terminal screen and askin login and passwort.

is that normal?

normally the iso distros starts fully till i the the kde, xfce desktop.

I don't know the answer. I use open-rc since I started using Devuan.

I find it easy to use, and services and daemons may be started and stopped, restarted with sysvinit service calls.
(so I can still use the same commands, but it's a bit simpler (for me).

I started using open-rc when I switched over from pclinux.

There's another new one peeps are talking about, but I have not tried it,

runit (i dont know it's real name).

by the way, you could try one and if you don't like it install an other one.

see how you go.

i am a newbie. which init system can you avoid me? which one is stable, fast, modern and with a lot of advantages?

The installer will go through some stages. you get the choice of desktop (kde, etc... I only use kde plasma)

The choice of init is near the end, I like open-rc as well.

The live usb version is not kde. (iirc)

we have beautiful theme colours as well.

I love using Devuan, I think you will too. :-)

happy hollidays!