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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=60959#p60959</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Is this project cancelled?</p><p>Also, what happened to the repository, was it deleted or relocated? If so, where is it?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2025 15:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=56966#p56966</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@GNUser I myself like JWM, because it is an ultra lightweight window manager and has most of the features people desire in a window manager without excessive bloat.</p><p>Uses&#160; very little cpu power too.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (zapper)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2025 10:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=56839#p56839</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Will continue to just use Xfce 4.12 (GTK2) until I&#039;m finally done with all technology...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Hi, brocashelm. I feel your frustration. I also wish I could just be done with all of it, but unfortunately I don&#039;t think this is a realistic option for most people. As complex/proprietary/privacy-disrespecting software wraps its tentacles around more and more facets of daily life, I confess that I find myself becoming more and more jealous of the Amish. </p><p>One obvious way to make GNU/Linux suck less is to use only FOSS. Another way is to not use any Desktop Environment at all--to use your own selection of smaller, modular applications instead.</p><p>I am a former MATE user but now I just use Fluxbox + xfe file manager (in my X environment) or labwc + sfwbar + xfe (in my wayland environment). It takes some work to make such a spartan environment comfortable but, once it&#039;s configured, it&#039;s very satisfying to use, simpler to understand, and very difficult to break.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (GNUser)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2025 19:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=56811#p56811</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice if Mate didn&#039;t require all that garbage to use. dbus and polkit as examples.</p><p>I don&#039;t trust all that redhatware which is why I tend to stick with jwm.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (zapper)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2025 23:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=56797#p56797</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Any updates on this?</p><p>All the GitHub URLs still point to a 404 page, which means either you forgot to point us to the active repository or this project is dead. What a shame... Especially in the wake of all this XLibre stuff.</p><p>Will continue to just use Xfce 4.12 (GTK2) until I&#039;m finally done with all technology...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (brocashelm)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2025 19:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54576#p54576</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The name is staying, as I&#039;ve said before I don&#039;t have reasons to worry about legal implications since:</p><p>1. I don&#039;t live in the US, neither does my hosting;</p><p>2. I&#039;ll not be profiteering from the project;</p><p>3. This likely wouldn&#039;t get in any distro repositories even if it had a different name;</p><p>and last but not least important 4. it&#039;s a funny, silly pun on IBM&#039;s past and present products. Let them bicker about branding and identity as they have done for years, we don&#039;t need to do the same since GNOME/2 Is Not GNOME.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (mrnhmath)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2025 19:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54575#p54575</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I use the MATE desktop environment with Devuan and like mrnhmath&#039;s ideas for a fork. </p><p>I agree with others that GNOME/2 is not a great name. A completely new name would a) establish a clear identity for the fork, b) prevent interpersonal conflicts with the people at Red Hat/GNOME, and c) make it easy to search for and talk about the fork. </p><p>Yes to Codeberg. GitHub and GitLab are both creepy given their ownership.</p><p>Once this fork has a reasonable name and a web page that can be reached reliably, I&#039;d love to give it a try.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (GNUser)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2025 18:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54570#p54570</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Making a desktop called gnome/2 isn&#039;t a problem - but once you try distributing it, your problems will begin. You may be outside of the US but your methods of distribution may not be.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I agree. It&#039;s better to come up with a name for your project and not have to deal with those COC lovers from Gnome...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (stopAI)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54568#p54568</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@mrnhmath, you might care if they set their lawyers on you - and you&#039;re the low hanging fruit they will go after. Making a desktop called gnome/2 isn&#039;t a problem - but once you try distributing it, your problems will begin. You may be outside of the US but your methods of distribution may not be.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (blackhole)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2025 08:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54566#p54566</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>No offense and the thing to remember is that everyone&#039;s tastes are different, but spacefm has been awful in every version i&#039;ve tried, vanilla PcmanFM is better in every way.</p><p>&quot;Power-users&quot; are a very small minority of the computer-users world-wide. And if you are among that minority, then you have the capacity to build yourself whatever works for you. I suggest you do that.</p><p>For most folks, the whole &quot;workspaces&quot; thing is completely wasted. As for myself that&#039;s the first thing I delete. I don&#039;t need 2 panels, much less 4, that&#039;s the second thing I delete.</p><p>I&#039;ve converted hundreds of former windoze users to Linux now, and every single one of them preferred a familiar simple interface, one panel at the bottom of the screen, no &quot;workspaces&quot;, simple menu, easy and intuitive for people who don&#039;t live to code.</p><p>Gnome-2 and Mate were that bridge for a lot of people myself included.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2025 02:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54565#p54565</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I would be a lot more excited to see SpaceFM (particularly the GTK2 version) continue to be maintained by someone who believes in the software without it losing its features (e.g. customization) or having all sorts of modern dependencies slapped on it (the Thermitegod fork is a shining example of that, which I couldn&#039;t even build with Devuan Ceres), when it literally &quot;just works&quot; with or without much of the accursed UDisks2 or D-Bus infestations.</p><p>In contrast, Thunar, Caja, Nemo, Dolphin, Konqueror, PCManFM-Qt, Xfe, Gentoo, etc. are all slow, bloated, and/or featureless pieces of software. SpaceFM is also the only GUI file manager that allows you to have four panels (among the keybinds you could set), which makes it a lot more comfortable for a power user on the desktop. It truly sucks that IgnorantGuru stopped maintaining it, and the GitHub repository has over two hundred reported issues. Using patches to work around some of these issues for now.</p><p>With that said, good luck with &quot;GNOME/2&quot;. Besides, how would that even look if you wanted to install it on your distro? Something like <span class="bbc">sudo apt install gnome-2</span>? (Since the forward slash would designate a different version of the software you&#039;d like to install, such as <span class="bbc">sudo apt install xfce4/beowulf</span> signifying you want the Xfce 4.12 desktop metapackage instead of 4.16, 4.18, or 4.20.)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (brocashelm)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2025 00:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54562#p54562</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Beware of gnome brand trademarks...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>This for sure. The <del>goblins</del> devs at gnome are not exactly known for their tolerance of others or sense of humor.</p><p>Personally I wouldn&#039;t want their name on anything I did.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2025 19:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54561#p54561</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Beware of gnome brand trademarks...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t live in the US and wouldn&#039;t care even if I did.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (mrnhmath)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54560#p54560</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>GNOME/2</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Beware of gnome brand trademarks...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (blackhole)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2025 17:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54551#p54551</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>sourcehut?</p><p><a href="https://sourcehut.org/" rel="nofollow"> https://sourcehut.org/</a></p><p><a href="https://sourcehut.org/foss-contributions/" rel="nofollow"> https://sourcehut.org/foss-contributions/</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2025 12:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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