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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Weak processor + minimal DE = no miracle!]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46229#p46229</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think falkon is worth it, even if you&#039;re not a KDE user. I use it with XFCE without any issues (I just have to eat the Qt5 libraries that come with it).&#160; It&#039;s what I use most of the time on slow, old laptops.</p><p>Iridium browser is also quite nice for compatability.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 21:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Weak processor + minimal DE = no miracle!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.<br />I think the performance should simply be enough for specific tasks. And they are different for all of us.<br />I have a ThinkPad for “couch surfing”.<br /> For more serious ones, there is the Ideapad Y500, i7-3630QM/16/256/500/SLI (two identical video cards in parallel).<br />But it’s heavy, you can’t put it on your belly. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (aluma)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46161#p46161</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>My (old) laptop was already slow back to that time. I bought it just because was one the very first shipped with Linux (SLES) in Italy and was cheap too. Today is useless, even with 6GB of RAM and a SSD, the CPU is a crap. Nothing to add.</p><p>With your think pad you got a decent hardware, congrats!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Danielsan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46160#p46160</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have already changed. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />About the same money as your ROC-RK3328-CC.<br />ThinkPad x201, i5-560M, 4GB, 128 SSD.<br />5 hours new battery, everything works.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Weak processor + minimal DE = no miracle!]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46159#p46159</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>aluma wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I have no objection at all to someone using any programs.<br />But the essence of my thread is that with a weak processor the OS turns into a single-tasking, or rather single-window, if we mean browsers.<br />And no “light” DEs, browsers, etc. things won&#039;t help. If you want normal work, you will have to pay for a more productive computer.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Any recent celeron is better than your cpu, I still have a laptop with an E-450 and performs worse than the ROC-RK3328-CC that I am using to writing this reply with LibreWolf.</p><p>Auto quote myself about the RK3328:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p><strong>What can I do with it?</strong></p><p>I do almost anything, and with the Renegade board I can do even more. Although this board support video acceleration your phone is better suited for media consuming. Anyway with my first prototype and the last Stealthbox I was able to do almost anything, a great improvement was achieved whan I was able to boost the tethering allowing me to load heavy-weight website.</p><p>This is what it was possible doing with the current Stealthbox and the prototype:</p><ul><li><p>Internet searches ✅</p></li><li><p>Email reading ✅ (with client, but with 4GB and booster also webmail)</p></li><li><p>Online banking and bills ✅</p></li><li><p>Mastodon ✅</p></li><li><p>Diaspora ✅</p></li><li><p>Fora (forums) ✅</p></li><li><p>Amazon, Target, Walmart etc ✅ (with tethering booster)</p></li><li><p>Projects with Inkscape ✅</p></li><li><p>Projects with Gimp ✅</p></li><li><p>LibreOffice ❓ (didn&#039;t tested but with 4GB I believe it is feasible)</p></li><li><p>Abiword ✅</p></li><li><p>Text Editor ✅</p></li><li><p>Calibre and connecting a Kindle ✅</p></li><li><p>Youtube/Invidious/Videos ✅❗(no audio)</p></li><li><p>Git and Webdav ✅</p></li><li><p>Compile light software ✅</p></li><li><p>Netflix/Spotify/etc. ❌ (no DRM)</p></li></ul></div></blockquote></div><p><a href="https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/omg.pebcak.club/~freezr/gemlog/stealthbox-faq.gmi" rel="nofollow">https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/omg.pebca … ox-faq.gmi</a></p><p>I recently bought a second-hand crapbook (Asus L210MA) for less than $60 and compared with this board and the old laptop looks like a Ferrari.</p><p><a href="https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/omg.pebcak.club/~freezr/gemlog/2023-05-31-asus-l210ma-xfce-lid-issue-on-devuan-5.gmi" rel="nofollow">https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/omg.pebca … vuan-5.gmi</a></p><p>On both systems the disk is encrypted therefore extra workload to do in real time, and they works just fine.</p><p>Modern internet is a shit, and webpages are a pile of crap, that&#039;s why we publish our content on Gemini. Try Lagrange on your computer and see how fantastic is browsing the Geminispace.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46156#p46156</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have no objection at all to someone using any programs.<br />But the essence of my thread is that with a weak processor the OS turns into a single-tasking, or rather single-window, if we mean browsers.<br />And no “light” DEs, browsers, etc. things won&#039;t help. If you want normal work, you will have to pay for a more productive computer.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Falkon piqued my interest but as soon as I found out it was KDE that was it.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Falkon might be a good choice for those people who are using LXQt (or KDE).</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I actually installed KDE once in its early days. It didn&#039;t last long for the reasons mentioned above and that everything was so &#039;twitchy&#039; and I would be spending too much time turning off all that ADD-inducing garbage . . .</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Several years ago I used an online builder to create a liveCD of openSUSE with a KDE desktop. It was so bloated and slow that it was essentially unusable.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Two people play this game. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />My city website first asked to disable *block, then it stopped showing the contents of the page opened via the link from the main page. <br />Now there’s a new feature, an advertising widget, by clicking on it and selecting “Block...” from the drop-down menu, we get a red rectangle containing not only this widget, but all the main text.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>aluma wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>You can probably block Javascript on pages, but then the necessary functions will not work.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That is only true if you use a heavy-handed approach, such as disabling Javascript completely or using an extension like NoScript (with default settings).</p><p>I use these extensions:</p><p><strong>uBlock Origin</strong><br /><strong>NoScript</strong> (with scripts allowed globally).</p><p>With that combination, breakage is rare. And when it does occur, it is easily fixed. I usually disable uBlock Origin on websites that involve transactions, like banking and shopping websites, as a proactive measure.</p><p>NoScript in the above combination may appear to be redundant, but it&#039;s not. Although uBlock Origin does most of the work, NoScript provides protection against cross-site scripting attacks.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46152#p46152</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>aluma wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>This is the KDE5 project, it is “heavier” than the Trinity I use. If I just install it, it will pull a bunch of Qt5 libraries with it</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Falkon piqued my interest but as soon as I found out it was KDE that was it. I actually installed KDE once in its early days. It didn&#039;t last long for the reasons mentioned above and that everything was so &#039;twitchy&#039; and I would be spending too much time turning off all that ADD-inducing garbage . . .</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I personally don&#039;t want to.<br />This is the KDE5 project, it is “heavier” than the Trinity I use. If I just install it, it will pull a bunch of Qt5 libraries with it</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 18:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46148#p46148</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#039;t done so already, try the <a href="https://www.falkon.org/" rel="nofollow">Falkon</a> web browser. For comparison sake (if you&#039;re so inclined).</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># apt install falkon</code></pre></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 17:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46138#p46138</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Lumina Desktop + Acer Aspire with 1GB of ram. 1.66ghz processor.</p><p>I haven&#039;t done this persay, but I have run mate, lxde and xfce4, so I bet it would work with Lumina too.</p><p>It also requires the least bloat to use of the four...</p><p><img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>I have run the other three desktop environments on that computer before just to clarify.</p><p>Although, this was around the days of debian 7...&#160; but I was using a linux distro with upstart and other ubuntu garbage, so... yeah.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 01:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46124#p46124</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>aluma wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>choosing a browser</p></div></blockquote></div><p>To clarify, my discussion was intended to build on the divide between your point about JS and application usability, versus other observations about how running arbitrary JS (tab count notwithstanding) can contribute to overhead or overheating.</p><p>Anyway, there&#039;s always <em>curl</em>.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2023 15:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46120#p46120</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh, choosing a browser is a fascinating process that occupies the minds of most users, judging by the number of publications. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />I&#039;m not a gourmet in this matter; for me there is not much difference between FF and Chromium.<br />As long as the processor does not hit the ceiling of its performance, everything works.</p><p>And a respected colleague&#160; @fsmithred correctly pointed out overheating.</p><p>The loading graphs presented above are very similar to the stress test graphs. The average desktop works in stress mode for several tens of minutes. Then it turns off due to overheating. In real life, a computer can lower its clock speed, further reducing performance</p><p>P.S. As an illustration, today&#039;s photo is Lenovo Y500.<br /><a href="https://postimg.cc/Lq8FSYjP" rel="nofollow"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/8ChphL5Z/imgp2155.jpg" alt="imgp2155.jpg" /></span></a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2023 09:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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