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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browsers won't launch]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=44358#p44358</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Good afternoon everyone<br />Let me remind you that the issue on this topic has already been resolved by installing another working environment (Xfce)<br />This problem was observed not only by the author of the topic.<br />This problem, as I understand it, does not exist in the old stable version of &quot;Chimaera&quot;<br />Further testing of the Gnome working environment in the Daedalus version is possible only by other users</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Charon795)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2023 06:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=44336#p44336</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>What does</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>which firefox</code></pre></div><p>say?<br />On my computer it tells me ...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>/usr/bin/firefox</code></pre></div><p>Gregor</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Gregors)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 20:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browsers won't launch]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=44332#p44332</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Marjorie wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>AFAIK Wayland is only available if you use KDE or Gnome, other DMs default to X (I use Cinnamon and X). <br />Maybe the issue you are having with Firefox is Wayland/rootless start related. <br />Maybe it&#039;s not showing your apps on your default screen.</p><p>Are you starting them from a terminal or from Gnome? Starting them from a terminal may show some useful information.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I don’t even know what Wayland/rootless is to be honest) I don’t know what about the others, but I launched it from the firefox icon. Ps: I also tried it from the terminal, but still nothing started</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Charon795)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browsers won't launch]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=44331#p44331</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>AFAIK Wayland is only available if you use KDE or Gnome, other DMs default to X (I use Cinnamon and X). <br />Maybe the issue you are having with Firefox is Wayland/rootless start related. <br />Maybe it&#039;s not showing your apps on your default screen.</p><p>Are you starting them from a terminal or from Gnome? Starting them from a terminal may show some useful information.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Marjorie)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>groog.17 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I decided to move to Chimaera, everything works just perfect with manual setup Xorg and Gnome.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>chimaera is an old version of devuan. It is quite stable and can also be used. I&#039;m glad that everything works in this version, but I would recommend that you still switch to the daedalus version It has certain new features that are not present in the Chimaera version:<br />Based on Debian Bookworm (version 12) with Linux kernel 6.1<br />Rootless startx uses libseat1<br />Wayland GUI without elogind</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Charon795)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=44328#p44328</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Charon795 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>groog.17 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I have just installed Daedalus with Gnome DE, chose it during installation, then updated it. By default it has Firefox-ESR as browser. So, Firefox starts in the background and can be seen in System Manager and not by eyes <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Libreoffice which comes with distro either DOES NOT start at all. The same thing with Synaptic package manager, it requests admin pass and does not start.</p><p>I ask myself, how could this be released if part of software do not even run? But you can run sudoku and some other games <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> but its not what we usually use a linux for <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Good afternoon. I&#039;m sorry you encountered the same problem as me. Unfortunately, I still didn’t understand what to do with this problem, so I simply reinstalled Devuan, but during the installation I chose XFCE rather than Gnome. It&#039;s much better than Gnome and everything works in it</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I decided to move to Chimaera, everything works just perfect with manual setup Xorg and Gnome.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (groog.17)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 18:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=44234#p44234</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>groog.17 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I have just installed Daedalus with Gnome DE, chose it during installation, then updated it. By default it has Firefox-ESR as browser. So, Firefox starts in the background and can be seen in System Manager and not by eyes <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Libreoffice which comes with distro either DOES NOT start at all. The same thing with Synaptic package manager, it requests admin pass and does not start.</p><p>I ask myself, how could this be released if part of software do not even run? But you can run sudoku and some other games <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> but its not what we usually use a linux for <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Good afternoon. I&#039;m sorry you encountered the same problem as me. Unfortunately, I still didn’t understand what to do with this problem, so I simply reinstalled Devuan, but during the installation I chose XFCE rather than Gnome. It&#039;s much better than Gnome and everything works in it</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Charon795)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2023 11:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browsers won't launch]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=44228#p44228</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have just installed Daedalus with Gnome DE, chose it during installation, then updated it. By default it has Firefox-ESR as browser. So, Firefox starts in the background and can be seen in System Manager and not by eyes <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Libreoffice which comes with distro either DOES NOT start at all. The same thing with Synaptic package manager, it requests admin pass and does not start.</p><p>I ask myself, how could this be released if part of software do not even run? But you can run sudoku and some other games <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> but its not what we usually use a linux for <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (groog.17)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=44076#p44076</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="codebox"><pre><code>whoami
ps ax | grep -E &quot;slim|lightdm&quot;
set | grep -i display
echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
which firefox-esr
w</code></pre></div><p>please run this code and paste the result to tell us more of your system</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (bai4Iej2need)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2023 11:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=44075#p44075</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello.</p><p>Please, open the terminal and type in terminal </p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>chromium</code></pre></div><p>Chromium should launch. If not, paste terminal output here.</p><p>Same procedure valid for firefox-esr.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (stopAI)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2023 11:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><span class="bbc">firexox</span>: speling</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>$ apt search firexox
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
# (nothing)</code></pre></div><p>Could be the source of your problems.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (alexkemp)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2023 07:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=44064#p44064</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Did you try to purge firefox completelly ( ex.: &quot;apt-get remove --purge firexox-esr&quot; or &quot;apt-get remove --purge firexox&quot;&#160; and reinstall it?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Devarch)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2023 20:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Charon795 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>as I wrote above, I am new to linux. Therefore, I&#039;m not familiar with all these desktops yet. Gnome is used in Ubuntu and I more than liked it, so I installed it.<br />And judging by the screenshots on the Internet, MATE, which you mentioned, is somewhat reminiscent of the Windows desktop, and I&#039;m tired of Windows. Want something new</p></div></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>Charon795 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>This is not helpful at all. Gnome is a desktop that is offered in the devuan daedalus netinstall iso. Ive not been able to get it to work properly either. Maybe gnome desktop should be left off the chosen list of desktop environments as it relies far too heavily on systemd.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I guess the issue could be due to some missing GNOME dependencies since you went with the &#039;netinstall.iso&#039;. Did you try the full &#039;desktop.iso&#039;?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (amaro)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2023 10:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>Charon795 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>What desktop did you install? FF should be installed by default.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>When installing the system, instead of Xfce, I chose to install Gnome.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Why? I never could figure out the gnome3 desktop. That&#039;s when I stopped using it a very long time ago. So sorry, can&#039;t help except to mention the Mate desktop which uses gnome2.</p><p>I will drop here a link from over 10 years ago for your reading pleasure <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />:<br /><span class="bbu"><a href="https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/" rel="nofollow">GNOME (et al): Rotting In Threes</a></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p>This is not helpful at all. Gnome is a desktop that is offered in the devuan daedalus netinstall iso. Ive not been able to get it to work properly either. Maybe gnome desktop should be left off the chosen list of desktop environments as it relies far too heavily on systemd.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (soren)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2023 10:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Charon795 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>What to do with browsers?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Use the command terminal to discover the state of your firefox install (or whichever of the 200 different browsers you want to use).</p><ul><li><p>the following piece of code is issued from a Terminal</p></li><li><p>it is likely that you will need to type <span class="bbc">sudo</span> before issuing the command<br />the <span class="bbc">apt</span> command requires that you are the root user before you issue it<br /><span class="bbc">sudo</span> is a &quot;do as root&quot; command.</p></li><li><p>If you do not yet have <span class="bbc">sudo</span> installed then follow the instructions in <a href="https://linuxconfig.org/sudo-install-usage-and-sudoers-config-file-basics" rel="nofollow">this link</a> (one-time only);</p></li><li><p>the &#039;$&#039; prefix indicates that you are working in the command window as an ordinary user;<br /> a &#039;#&#039; prefix would indicate that you are the root user (only ever do that for administration; always work as an ordinary user);<br /> you do NOT have to enter either char to get the prefix</p></li></ul><div class="codebox"><pre><code>$ apt search firefox-esr | head

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

Sorting...
Full Text Search...
firefox-esr/stable-security,stable-proposed-updates,now 102.14.0esr-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed]
  Mozilla Firefox web browser - Extended Support Release (ESR)

firefox-esr-l10n-ach/stable-security,stable-proposed-updates 102.14.0esr-1~deb12u1 all
  Acoli language package for Firefox ESR

firefox-esr-l10n-af/stable-security,stable-proposed-updates 102.14.0esr-1~deb12u1 all
  Afrikaans language package for Firefox ESR</code></pre></div><p>The important part of the result is the word &quot;[installed]&quot;. If that does not exist then do a <span class="bbc">apt install firefox-esr</span> or use <span class="bbc">synaptic</span> to install it. Once you have done that you will get a menu-link under the &quot;Internet&quot; sub-link for Firefox. Once you get used to your Desktop you can place logos as links for your most-common utilities within the Panel.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2023 09:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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