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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43719#p43719</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I have never even seen debian or devuan say this LOL.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>First sentence of the third paragraph on:<br /><a href="https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/daedalus/upgrade-to-daedalus" rel="nofollow">https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-daedalus</a><br /><span style="color: red"><strong>Note that skipping releases is not supported.</strong></span></p><p>Does it say that for every release? <br />If so, yeah your definitely right.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Although, its probable I just didn&#039;t do enough research.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You think?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I wouldn&#039;t doubt that</p><p>Glad I know now even though I don&#039;t use devuan as much.</p><p>I can help others to not make the same dumb errors. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>Btw, unrelated, but&#160; surprised you liked that rant I sent. Usually you either say nothing or are not so fond of it.</p><p>As I sent in a forum email, I was surprised by this. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 19:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43688#p43688</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I have never even seen debian or devuan say this LOL.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>First sentence of the third paragraph on:<br /><a href="https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/daedalus/upgrade-to-daedalus" rel="nofollow">https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-daedalus</a><br /><span style="color: red"><strong>Note that skipping releases is not supported.</strong></span></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Although, its probable I just didn&#039;t do enough research.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You think?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 03:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43686#p43686</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>GlennW wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>On an experimental system... as an experiment.</p><p>Biggest hurdles was when glibc version changed between install and upgrade.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Don&#039;t doubt something was a problem.</p><p>Funny thing, libc was the problem I had. </p><p>I have a feeling that libc was related to glibc.</p><p>So... yeah lol right on target.</p><p>I have done what I mentioned at the top&#160; before I knew what VMs where and after and until I learned how to use qemu properly.</p><p>I been working with linux for at least 8 years, on and off from before 2016 and after till I decided to completely jump the shark for good towards linux.</p><p>Windows 8.1 tripled my ram and that was why I became suspicious of windows and then chats with people who know stuff about windows, etc, etc...</p><p>Someone at a meeting asked if there was a backdoor in windows and everyone was silent.</p><p>This person told me this, on and on... won&#039;t bore you any further.</p><p>Point being, lots of screws up have occurred due to my recklessness.</p><p>Pity I didn&#039;t learn how to use VMs before I decided to distrohop. This would have saved me 5+ years of agonizing irritation. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 02:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43683#p43683</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>On an experimental system... as an experiment.</p><p>Biggest hurdles was when glibc version changed between install and upgrade.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (GlennW)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 02:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43680#p43680</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>steve_v wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>In 20+ years, I&#039;ve never seen any distro say anything but &quot;unsupported, at own risk&quot; with regard to skipping releases on an in-place upgrade. Devuan and upstream Debian are not exceptions. <br />Why would you even try it, except as an experiment?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Lack of knowledge? Ignorance? Lack of Critical thought?</p><p>These 3 are all possibilities. <br />I have never even seen debian or devuan say this LOL.</p><p>Although, its probable I just didn&#039;t do enough research.<br /><strong><br />But as an obvious, only two things make it okay although still largely a waste of time anyhow:</strong></p><p><strong>1: Its a VM</strong></p><p><strong>2: You have more than one copy of that same VM</strong></p><p>That&#039;s all I can think of. </p><p><img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 02:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43650#p43650</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>In 20+ years, I&#039;ve never seen any distro say anything but &quot;unsupported, at own risk&quot; with regard to skipping releases on an in-place upgrade. Devuan and upstream Debian are not exceptions. <br />Why would you even try it, except as an experiment?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (steve_v)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2023 06:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43644#p43644</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I feel for ya. I&#039;ve tried on many distros and found the same to be true.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (GlennW)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2023 03:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43641#p43641</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Never, ever switch from oldoldstable to stable.</p><p>When using full-upgrade, always make sure you do it only one from one version difference.</p><p>Like oldstable to stable or oldoldstable to oldstable.</p><p>If you have any stupid meanderings, feel free to post them here if they relevant. Not that I can stop people ;P</p><p>And yeah, I tried to go from beowulf to daedalus that caused me to bork a vm.</p><p>Thankfully I had backups...</p><p><img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2023 02:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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