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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43171#p43171</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I run Dillo an w3m.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 11:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I run seamonkey on my HP Mini 110.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (peteswickedale)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 03:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43165#p43165</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>May be Palemoon? 2GB RAM is not enough for modern sh.. web with all s..t scripts.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2023 20:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>chris2be8 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... worth using <span class="bbc">free</span> and <span class="bbc">vmstat</span> to see how much your swap file is being used.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, but it will have to wait till I have some time to do that.<br />For now, I seem to have solved the problem by installing <span class="bbc">91.9.1esr</span>. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>chris2be8 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... firefox must have something else wrong with it.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I do not use the 1000HE much, just roast coffee with it one a fortnight and keep it updated.</p><p>As I have not had to do any local travel since a couple of years before the pandemic hit, browser usage has been limited to accessing the web to check on something while/if my box was off-line which is not frequent so I cannot really say at which point this started happening.</p><p>Although I suspect it is this last (available) version </p><p>But <em>something</em> is amiss: either a bug or FF code now does things it did <em>not</em> do in previous versions.<br />Would not be at all surprised.</p><p>Thanks in advance.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2023 11:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43147#p43147</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>It might be worth using <span class="bbc">free</span> and <span class="bbc">vmstat</span> to see how much your swap file is being used. Eg leave <span class="bbc">vmstat 10</span> running in a terminal window while you try to start the slow version of firefox and see what it shows for si and so (swap-in and swap-out). If they sit at zero then firefox must have something else wrong with it.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (chris2be8)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2023 16:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... they have i386 for 78, 102 and 115, but they skipped 91.<br />... might find a suitable version somewhere else.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Found it <a href="https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/91.9.1esr/linux-i686/en-GB/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p><p><span class="bbc">apt</span>/<span class="bbc">synaptic</span> won&#039;t be aware of it as this was not a <span class="bbc">.deb</span> file.<br />The extracted folder is in <span class="bbc">/opt</span> and symlinked the executable to <span class="bbc">/user/bin/firefox</span>.</p><p>As expected, it loads with no problems and does not stress the CPU: I was able to untick all the boxes as I have always done.<br />No response delays whatsoever.</p><p>So <em>whatever</em> is going on with FF <span class="bbc">102.13.0esr</span>, it is poison for the 1000HE.<br />If by design (ie: not a bug) it is a rather dumb move for a i686 version.</p><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2023 14:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43140#p43140</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t see it either. That&#039;s weird - they have i386 for 78, 102 and 115, but they skipped 91. You might find a suitable version somewhere else. I don&#039;t know if Mozilla makes old versions available, or maybe some brownish distro has one that works.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2023 10:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43139#p43139</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Better...<br /><a href="http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/firefox-esr/" rel="nofollow">http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/ma … refox-esr/</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, the 91.13esr-1~deb10u1 would be suitable enough to test but I&#039;ve been there.</p><p>Maybe I don&#039;t know what I am looking for?<br />ie: I don&#039;t see a &quot;esr-1~deb10u1 i386&quot; version.</p><p>Thanks in advance.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43138#p43138</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/f/firefox-esr/" rel="nofollow">http://archive.debian.org/debian-securi … refox-esr/</a></p><p>Edit: I just noticed that those might be too old.</p><p>Better...<br /><a href="http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/firefox-esr/" rel="nofollow">http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/ma … refox-esr/</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello fsr:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... playing with an ASUS EEE ...<br />... what software to use on it.<br />... old Refracta Jessie on it that runs fine ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Mine runs on 5.10.0-0.deb10.16-686-pae (5.10.127-2~bpo10+1).<br />I have resized the almost never used XP partition to get space for a larger swap file, now set at a ridiculous 12GB for testing purposes. </p><p>I reinstalled firefox-esr from the repository but it is practically unusable.<br />First thing I have always done when installing FF and other similar browsesr is go to the settings page and untick the default settings.</p><p>In this version of FF the UI has an absurd reponse time: between two or three sec. to see the box unticked.<br />Scrolling with the 1000HE&#039;s infamous touchpad is another problem, it takes almost two sec. to respond.</p><p>I have also noticed the CPU fan starting to blow after a while of doing <em>nothing</em> but what I describe above.<br />ie: no web related activity whatsoever, just FF open and changing the settings.</p><p>A consequence of this is that with the 1000HE plugged in, the battery charging light came on.<br />I have never seen this happen, not even when running the coffee roasting program.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... the cpu is the limiting issue.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m sure of it, but I do not recall this happening with previous versions of FF.</p><p>Curiously enough (or not) the usually sluggish (but not unusable) coffee roasting sofware I use on the 1000HE has acquired a snappiness it did not have when the swap file was set at its previous value of 8GB, so one for the good guys.</p><p>I have been looking all over but cannot find an older version of firefox-esr to try, ideally two or three behind the acual one.<br />Know where I can download it to test on the 1000HE?&#160; &#160; </p><p>Thanks in advance.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43134#p43134</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been playing with an ASUS EEE this week, trying to figure out what software to use on it. There&#039;s an old Refracta Jessie on it that runs fine, but daedalus is slow. Anyway, I&#039;m posting this from the firefox-esr I just installed after increasing my swapfile to 2G (same as the RAM). Scrolling is a little choppy, but it seems to be working ok. Only two tabs are open, so I&#039;m not even using half my RAM. Youtube video is choppy, but the audio is smooth. I think the cpu is the limiting issue.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 17:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... links2 for lightweight graphical browsing. It makes the internet look like 1995, which I find very soothing.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ll have a look.</p><p>To test, I fired up the <span class="bbc">devuan_chimaera_4.0.3_i386_desktop-live.iso</span> using a 4GB SD card and although Firefox behaved a bit better but still unusable.<br />Maybe I should try an older version and pin it or resize the swapfile.</p><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 13:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43131#p43131</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I like links2 for lightweight graphical browsing. It makes the internet look like 1995, which I find very soothing.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Browser for netbook running Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43128#p43128</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I sometimes run Dillo, but it doesn&#039;t work on all websites.</p><p>When I had a netbook, I&#039;d give it a 2GB swap partition in addition to its 2GB ram, because it let me use FF at a reasonable speed, not so slow as to drive me nuts waiting. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Camtaf)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 09:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43123#p43123</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><p>I have run Devuan Linux on an Asus 1000HE (1.66GHz Intel Atom N280 CPU + 2GB RAM) for a few years now.<br />These days, 5.10.0 with a backported kernel.</p><p>I run my coffee roasting software and serves as a access websites when I&#039;m doing maintenance on my box and need to read up on something specific.<br />I also take with me when I am out of town. Limited but quite useful for a 14 year old netbook.</p><p>Now, the thing is that with the last two or three upgrades to <span class="bbc">firefox-esr</span>, the browser has become incredibly slow/sluggish: practically unusable.</p><p>Is there another, lighter on resources (ie:&#039;netbook friendly&#039;) that can be used with Devuan instead of Firefox-esr?</p><p>Thanks in advance.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2023 19:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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