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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43104#p43104</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Adding something like this to the qemu command might help for some things:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>-smp cores=2,threads=2</code></pre></div><p> I don&#039;t know what else you could do. I do know that you could make it a lot slower by removing the &#039;-enable-kvm&#039; option.</p><p>The the system you&#039;re running is a debian-based live system, you could boot the whole iso to RAM and run from there. Booting will be slower but opening programs will be very fast. Add the word &quot;toram&quot; to the boot command or possibly add &quot;toram=filsystem.squashfs&quot; depending on how the usb stick is arranged.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Thank you!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 17:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43093#p43093</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Adding something like this to the qemu command might help for some things:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>-smp cores=2,threads=2</code></pre></div><p> I don&#039;t know what else you could do. I do know that you could make it a lot slower by removing the &#039;-enable-kvm&#039; option.</p><p>The the system you&#039;re running is a debian-based live system, you could boot the whole iso to RAM and run from there. Booting will be slower but opening programs will be very fast. Add the word &quot;toram&quot; to the boot command or possibly add &quot;toram=filsystem.squashfs&quot; depending on how the usb stick is arranged.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 10:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43077#p43077</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>You are right, the whole system is slow on the virtual machine. I thought the VM should be about 3% slower. Is there any way to fix this?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 22:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43075#p43075</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure it&#039;s the network that&#039;s slow? I find the whole system to be slow inside a virtual machine.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 16:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ralph.ronnquist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Misspelling; should be <span class="bbc">qemu-system-x86_64</span></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Thank you!<br />I managed to run it. But for some reason, the internet speed in a virtual machine is half as fast as on a real one.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 03:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Misspelling; should be <span class="bbc">qemu-system-x86_64</span></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ralph.ronnquist)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43060#p43060</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I could never figure out how to use virt-manager, so I just use plain qemu. Something like this to boot the iso file from your hard drive...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>qemu-system-x86 -enable-kvm -m 2048 -cdrom devuan_whatever.iso </code></pre></div><p>Change the 2048 to however much RAM you want to give it (in MB)</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Everything seems to be installed, but qemu-system-x86 is still not found:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>sudo apt update &amp;&amp; sudo apt install -y qemu-utils qemu-system-x86 qemu-system-gui qemu-system libvirt-daemon-system qemu-kvm

qemu-system-x86 -enable-kvm -m 4096 -cdrom /media/devuan/Ventoy/devuan_chimaera_4.0.3_amd64_desktop-live.iso
bash: qemu-system-x86: command not found

sudo apt list qemu
qemu                qemu-efi            qemu-guest-agent    qemu-system-common  qemu-system-mips    qemu-system-sparc   qemu-user-binfmt    
qemu-block-extra    qemu-efi-aarch64    qemu-system         qemu-system-data    qemu-system-misc    qemu-system-x86     qemu-user-static    
qemubuilder         qemu-efi-arm        qemu-system-arm     qemu-system-gui     qemu-system-ppc     qemu-user           qemu-utils

sudo apt install -y qemu-system-x86
qemu-system-x86 is already the newest version (1:5.2+dfsg-11+deb11u2).</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (hejik)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I could never figure out how to use virt-manager, so I just use plain qemu. Something like this to boot the iso file from your hard drive...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2048 -cdrom devuan_whatever.iso </code></pre></div><p>Change the 2048 to however much RAM you want to give it (in MB)</p><p>Edit: Fixed typo.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 10:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>If I remember, qemu needs an image file to use - <a href="https://www.qemu.org/docs/master/system/images.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.qemu.org/docs/master/system/images.html</a></p><p>(You can create an empty image file &amp; install a distro to it, &amp; then run it in qemu.)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Camtaf)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 09:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43044#p43044</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>It&#039;s not clear what you want to accomplish.</p><p>1. If your usb stick is set up with a persistent volume to save changes in the live system, you can install qemu in it. If you don&#039;t have persistence set up, you would be better off making a new live-usb with a system that has qemu installed. </p><p>2. If you want to install qemu, it would be easier to install it from the devuan repo instead of compiling it from source.</p><p>3. Where is the other OS you want to boot? Are you planning to install it into a VM inside your live system? Is there a virtual hard disk with a system already on it?</p><p>Most of our packages are from debian, unchanged. That includes python3-venv.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The main idea is not to use an installed OS or persistence. I have already run the live devuan iso from ventoy usb. Now I try to run the same live devuan iso via quemu-kvm, but I get an error:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>sudo apt install -y qemu-utils qemu-system-x86 qemu-system-gui
sudo apt install -y qemu-system libvirt-daemon-system
sudo apt install -y qemu-kvm virt-manager libvirt</code></pre></div><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/NjdnF.png" alt="QEMU/KVM - Not Connected" /></span></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (hejik)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2023 18:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43001#p43001</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Most of our packages are from debian, unchanged. That includes <strong>python3-venv</strong>.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I guess that the required package is <strong>python3.X-venv</strong> (e.g, <strong>python3.11-venv</strong> in daedalus), instead of python3-venv.</p><p>I installed the following packages (in daedalus x86_64):</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code> # apt-get install ninja-build meson texinfo python3-sphinx:native python3-sphinx-rtd-theme libcapstone-dev libaio-dev libjack-dev libpulse-dev libbpf-dev \ 
libbrlapi-dev libcap-ng-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfdt-dev libfuse3-dev libiscsi-dev libncurses-dev libvirglrenderer-dev libva-dev libdrm-dev libgbm-dev libnfs-dev \
libnuma-dev libcacard-dev librbd-dev libglusterfs-dev libsasl2-dev libsdl2-dev libseccomp-dev libslirp-dev libspice-server-dev \
librdmacm-dev libibverbs-dev libibumad-dev liburing-dev libusb-1.0-0-dev libusbredirparser-dev libssh-dev libvdeplug-dev libxen-dev libpmem-dev \
device-tree-compiler gcc-s390x-linux-gnu gcc-alpha-linux-gnu gcc-powerpc64-linux-gnu gcc-sparc64-linux-gnu fcode-utils gcc-hppa-linux-gnu \
gcc-riscv64-linux-gnu gcc-arm-none-eabi flex bison gcc-power-pc-linux-gnu bc python3.11-venv</code></pre></div><p>And the <span class="bbc">./configure</span> script of qemu-8.1.0-rc0 worked.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2023 20:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hejik wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>How to run another OS from a USB stick running live devuan_chimaera_4.0.3_amd64_desktop-live.iso?&#160; Without installing Devuan itself on the computer?</p><p>I tried installing QEMU, but it gives an error:<br />wget <a href="https://download.qemu.org/qemu-8.1.0-rc0.tar.xz" rel="nofollow">https://download.qemu.org/qemu-8.1.0-rc0.tar.xz</a><br />tar xvJf qemu-8.1.0-rc0.tar.xz<br />cd qemu-8.1.0-rc0<br />./configure</p><p>Using &#039;./build&#039; as the directory for build output<br />WARNING: unrecognized host CPU, proceeding with &#039;uname -m&#039; output &#039;x86_64&#039;<br />python determined to be &#039;/usr/bin/python3&#039;<br />python version: Python 3.9.2</p><p>*** Ouch! ***</p><p>Python&#039;s ensurepip module is not found.<br />It&#039;s normally part of the Python standard library, maybe your distribution packages it separately?<br />(Debian puts ensurepip in its python3-venv package.)<br />Either install ensurepip, or alleviate the need for it in the first place by installing pip and setuptools for &#039;/usr/bin/python3&#039;.</p><p>ERROR: python venv creation failed</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I tried in daedalus after installing python3.11-venv, and the configure script worked. But it&#039;s supposed to work with python3.7, python3.8,... as well. Look at the line 526 of <span class="bbc">configure</span>.</p><p>Additional suggestion: configure your locales first.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2023 20:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42999#p42999</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>If you want to install qemu, it would be easier to install it from the devuan repo instead of compiling it from source.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The lower version 8.0.3 should work:</p><p>wget <a href="https://download.qemu.org/qemu-8.0.3.tar.xz" rel="nofollow">https://download.qemu.org/qemu-8.0.3.tar.xz</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2023 19:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42997#p42997</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s not clear what you want to accomplish.</p><p>1. If your usb stick is set up with a persistent volume to save changes in the live system, you can install qemu in it. If you don&#039;t have persistence set up, you would be better off making a new live-usb with a system that has qemu installed. </p><p>2. If you want to install qemu, it would be easier to install it from the devuan repo instead of compiling it from source.</p><p>3. Where is the other OS you want to boot? Are you planning to install it into a VM inside your live system? Is there a virtual hard disk with a system already on it?</p><p>Most of our packages are from debian, unchanged. That includes python3-venv.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2023 11:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Image write the .iso to your pendrive, make sure your computer will boot from USB first, insert pendrive, reboot - computer should load from pendrive.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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