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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43975#p43975</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>use reboot. Then hit the power button when it boots back up. <br />It&#039;s near instant.</p><p>We would probably need to redo the way shutdown passes halt. Play with devuan jessie. See if you can see what the heck is going on that changed between devuan and debian at the start of the fork. There might be a clue what the heck is going on there.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2023 05:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43142#p43142</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>recklessswing wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p> I don&#039;t get it.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Because systemd is malware.....</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2023 11:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43125#p43125</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ab wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Usually that&#039;s an errant program/service that isn&#039;t listening on the shutdown requests, and gets killed by a watchdog process at about 90 seconds.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Well I am sitting at a cafe for example, I need to go ASAP. I don&#039;t wanna wait for some stupid service. How is there not a big backlash to systemd devs for this? I don&#039;t get it.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (recklessswing)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2023 21:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42985#p42985</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>recklessswing wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>If systemd is &quot;so good&quot; why does it still exist?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Is that a question to ask <em>here</em>, at Dev1?<br />Seeing that there is <em><strong>no</strong></em> <span class="bbc">systemd</span> in Devuan, you may want to consider asking that question <a href="https://forums.debian.net/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>recklessswing wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... the sole reason I choose devuan when I can.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>If that is your <em>sole</em> reason for your choosing Devuan, I think you have <span class="bbu">a lot of reading up to do</span>.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 02:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42984#p42984</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Usually that&#039;s an errant program/service that isn&#039;t listening on the shutdown requests, and gets killed by a watchdog process at about 90 seconds.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ab)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42980#p42980</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>You know that sometimes happens that prompts you to wait 3 mins before shutting down the pc for absolutely no reason. Why does it still exists? If systemd is &quot;so good&quot; why does it still exist? This is the sole reason I choose devuan when I can. &quot;But you can close that with some journalctl blah blah command&quot; Fuck that I don&#039;t wanna invent some stuff for this shit. I am a noob user I wanna keep it that way. I don&#039;t wanna learn commands I will only use once in my life.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (recklessswing)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 21:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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