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Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (andyp67) — Mon, 17 Jul 2023 13:56:56 +0000

Born 1967 and missed computer studies by one year, had to learn digital photography, 1998 got a 233MHz Toshiba laptop, partitioned with SystemRescueCd and put Red Hat 6 on it, Fedora came, I went to Debian. Kitchen sink Knoppix was in my toolkit, also Robert Shingledecker is a hero, and Puppy Linux to easyos. cdc-acm USB GPRS was my first mountain to learn, then bluetooth GPRS.
Sometimes on the news you can see in a warzone some state sponsored whackos blowing the front off a hotel, git them journalists.
Alas I got bored of loonies trying to chop my head off.
A decade ago was DSLR and netbook and I could GPRS bluetooth a 3G phone on the fly in Sidux/Aptosid.
When that kit got robbed I got an armoured compact (camera,) and my first Android, Huawei, QWERTY.
jackpal terminal console, Xavier Gouchet Ted text processor, ffmpeg4android, Pixlr (2.6) Stay Alive! (display,) CryptIt blowfish cipher.
Moving too fast or dug in too deep, more. Bosnia was film and chemicals and facsimile and dish. Big bucks.
Anyway Klaus Kalder at easyos stimulation moved on to embedded, fair enough.
Obviously MX Linux is the contemporaneous kitchen sink, but I think antiX is the champ, again, one director, one man.
The Greek State understands that the future is open-source, it's not my bias because I am British and Greek.
News page on antixlinux dot com Bookworm beta June 11, 2023, runit & sysvinit.

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (jacksprat) — Mon, 17 Jul 2023 10:18:21 +0000

Thanks @andyp67: for "rsync" think a better "cp" command: I have been using it to clone file systems, moving between partitions and removable backup drives. The issue with startx and /tmp is just an annoying thing of my own doing, and can be resolved.

Aside: whilst I have used computers for 50 years [mainly scientific research], only since 2015 have I taken an interest in alternative init systems [etc]. I started by replacing sysvinit with "sinit" on Debian7 and Devuan. However, I got bored with that, and moved to Void Linux and Runit. Recently, I have explored Runit on AntiX and Devuan: both are complicated by re-using the sysvinit scripts. Both mean I must learn apt, apt-get and dpkg anew. Hence the questions here.

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (andyp67) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 21:09:25 +0000

apt-get --no-install-recommends install
is what I've learned recently

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (andyp67) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 21:06:26 +0000

Thats for Chimaera,
for Daedalus it's,
elogind libelogind-compat libelogind0 libpam-elogind libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 policykit-1 policykit-1-gnome pkexec polkitd polkitd-pkla
thats with Chromium, maybe falkon is different.
What it is is the same which is gnome surveillance

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (andyp67) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 20:58:01 +0000

I also dpkg --force-all -P elogind libelogind0 libpam-elogind libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 policykit-1 policykit-1-gnome
and then I apt-get download or dpkg -i libsystemd0
and it ain't broke at all whatsoever.

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (andyp67) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 20:52:59 +0000

I'm no professor and certainly no doctor just an amateur.
I don't really know what rsync backup means.
I am familiar with some startx problems, I dusted that by installing xserver-xorg-legacy, and /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config contains two lines, allowed_users=anybody needs_root_rights=yes
give it a shot, take you 2 minutes

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (jacksprat) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 20:25:31 +0000

Thanks @andyp67, but my rsync backup wouldn't work [startx failed because of a /tmp..Xauthority write error]. After a few days, I will try again. Worst case, I will re-install from netinstall ISO.

I hope that APT will allow me to remove Slim completely from the system. Otherwise, it will be safer to move from /etc/init.d/ completely.

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (andyp67) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 20:18:33 +0000

Thank bejesus we're not fooling around with systemd or whatever the frack it's called.
Seperate matter, ifconfig eth0 hw ether XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX (ifconfig wlan0 hw ether `/usr/bin/hexdump -n6 -e '/1 "02x"' /dev/urandom`,) works, I don't give two hoots what anybody says, random MAC by wpa does not work, and random MAC by systemd does not work.
I suppose I must be a hairy shirt or some nonsense because I use wpa and things like post-up iwconfig wlan0 txpower 15 | rate 5.5M,
if you really want to have a seizure from laughing too much, take a glance at the man page for iw.
I wonder if the interweb would fall over without ifconfig and route, amongst other things.
It's really super that the Devuan netinst iso got net-tools on it.
Try to tell em nowt.

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (andyp67) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 19:57:41 +0000

rename /etc/init.d/S20slim (or whatever it's called,) to _S20slim, and I'll eat my hat if it don't work, I'm not joking!

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (jacksprat) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 18:24:39 +0000

Good news: "apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing" completed without any errors. Bad news: it seriously messed up my system. For example, whereas I had stopped slim graphical login with "chmod -x /etc/init.d/slim", now nothing would stop it. I'm not sure what other damage the dist-upgrade did.

I have decided to try and undo things from an earlier rsync backup. Thanks anyway for your help here.

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 16:43:57 +0000

jacksprat wrote:

Does this look OK?

It does now . . .

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (rolfie) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 15:57:50 +0000

Replace pkgmaster by deb, then consider if you require the deb-src part. If you are not compiling packages then delete the 3 entries, they are not required.
In addition I suggest to add non-free-firmware (new with Bookworn/Daedalus).

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (jacksprat) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 15:47:18 +0000

@fsmithred: I reran the test with the same result. Here is sources.list minus comments:

deb [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] daedalus main non-free contrib
deb-src [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] daedalus main non-free contrib
deb [url]http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged[/url] daedalus-security main contrib non-free
deb-src [url]http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged[/url] daedalus-security main contrib non-free
deb [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] daedalus-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] daedalus-updates main contrib non-free

Does this look OK?

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (fsmithred) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 14:30:33 +0000

Sometimes an update or upgrade will fail if you happen to hit a mirror when it's updating itself. In this case, trying after a few minutes will fix it.

Please post your /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure it's correct.

Re: Install with Runit as the init

dummy@example.com (jacksprat) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:27:47 +0000

@fsmithred: I changed /etc/apt/source.list from chimaera->daedalus according to your instructions, but the "apt upgrade" failed with error

"libwacom9 depends on libwacom-common 2.6.0-1 but 1.8-2 is to be installed: broken packages"

If this was the first of many breakages arising from the shock of switching the sources.list, then I may be stuck. I will probably reverse sources.list to chiraera and hope that "apt update" fixes things. Ideas?