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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan doesn't have graphical user management]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=41610#p41610</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@ribcage . . . Thank you for sharing your solutions and reminding me that I should install <span class="bbc">gnome-system-tools</span>. Haven&#039;t had a need but good to have it there if/when the need arises . . . <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2023 21:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=41609#p41609</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>thierrybo wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... just Debian without systemd ...<br />... what many old Debian users are awaiting ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No small feat by any means, an endless task.<br />Devuan survives today thanks to a small but very dedicated cast of knowlegeable individuals who devote their time and effort to keep it running.</p><p>Unfortunately, as <span class="bbc">systemd</span> and <em>other</em> assorted crap (eg.: <span class="bbc">zeigeist</span>) advance and dig their tentacles into the workings of Debian, that task becomes more and more difficult.</p><p><em>That</em> is what newcomers are not fully aware of.&#160; </p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2023 20:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Also as far as I know Devuan goal is not to be a real distribution of its own and provide custom solutions to common problems. It is just Debian without systemd, they will not add &quot;goodies&quot; to be a full featured distribution, it is just plain Debian. I believe this is what many old Debian users are awaiting from this distribution, but it may surprise newcomers that are not fully aware of that.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (thierrybo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2023 18:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=41607#p41607</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>I was surprised there is no way to change your password or add and remove new users and groups.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Most people just use the command line, as we always have, the programs are there already. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Camtaf)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2023 18:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>boughtonp wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... raised legitimate issues <em>in XFCE</em>, but blamed Devuan for those issues, and had a generally poor attitude.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Just to add: I have experienced exactly that type of thing when reporting issues related to windows crashing in XFCE.<br />As a result, I decided to be rid of XFCE as soon as I can get together my Chimaera/Openbox act.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2023 16:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=41605#p41605</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ribcage wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>There was a topic called &quot;Devuan: Existential issues.&quot; where a person had legitimate issues but was met with unfriendly responses.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>It looks like they raised legitimate issues <em>in XFCE</em>, but blamed Devuan for those issues, and had a generally poor attitude.<br /> ­ ­ </p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>I was surprised there is no way to change your password or add and remove new users and groups.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You should report this at <a href="https://bugzilla.xfce.org" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.xfce.org</a><br /> ­­ </p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>The &quot;Users and Groups&quot; program has a setting called &quot;Don&#039;t ask for password on login&quot; but it&#039;s not functional.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The place to report this one would be <a href="https://github.com/LStranger/gnome-system-tools" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/LStranger/gnome-system-tools</a><br /> ­­ </p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>I had issues with package managers accepting the .iso as a source for packages.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Did you try mounting it first?</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>mount -o loop,ro -t iso9660 &#039;/some/path/devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso&#039; /media/cdrom</code></pre></div><p>After that, you probably just need to uncomment the existing &quot;cdrom&quot; entry in sources.list (or add one if it doesn&#039;t exist), including the allow-insecure option, something like:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>deb [ allow-insecure=yes ] cdrom:[Devuan GNU/Linux 4.0 chimaera amd64 - desktop 20211012]/ chimaera main</code></pre></div><p>No need to extract files from the ISO or worry about filenames (usual shell quoting rules apply for the mount command).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2023 16:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There was a topic called &quot;Devuan: Existential issues.&quot; where a person had legitimate issues but was met with unfriendly responses. I had similar issues back when I tried Devuan and found some solutions, so maybe this will help someone.</p><p>I installed devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso, XFCE desktop environment, which was probably the default, I have no clue about all the different desktop environments.</p><p>I was surprised there is no way to change your password or add and remove new users and groups. Anyway, one solution is to install gnome-system-tools which seems to work quite well. After installing, the program will be found in Applications &gt; System &gt; Users and Groups.</p><p>So install it from the terminal with the command below or use the Synaptic package manager.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>sudo apt-get install gnome-system-tools</code></pre></div><p>The &quot;Users and Groups&quot; program has a setting called &quot;Don&#039;t ask for password on login&quot; but it&#039;s not functional. To make it work, go to Manage Groups and add a group called &quot;nopasswdlogin&quot;. Then, in <span class="bbc">/etc/pam.d/slim</span>, add the following line above <span class="bbc">@include common-auth</span>:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>auth sufficient pam_succeed_if.so user ingroup nopasswdlogin</code></pre></div><p>The package gnome-system-tools is inside the .iso, so you can install it from there, but I had issues with package managers accepting the .iso as a source for packages. Anyway, what I did is modify <span class="bbc">/etc/apt/sources.list</span> like this:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>deb [ allow-insecure=yes ] file:/some/path/devuan_iso chimaera contrib main non-free</code></pre></div><p>The entire path (/some/path/devuan_iso) needs to have no spaces in it. From the .iso, I copied the folder &quot;Devuan 4.01&quot; into the folder devuan_iso, or maybe I copied the contents of &quot;Devuan 4.01&quot; into it, forgot which it is.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2023 14:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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