There is 358 views on this thread, how many of the readers have any clue of what is this all about? Such personal conflicts really do not belong here.

I totally agree that what has unfolded recently is completely inappropriate but we have no control over who walks through the door . . ..

blackhole is an outside agitator/abuser with no ties to the Devuan project who has had a personal vendetta against me personally for a very long time. The choice is letting him spout his nonsense or having him accuse this forum and me specifically of censorship and who knows what else.

Your feedback is appreciated and I sincerely apologize. I think that this is a good thought on which to close this thread.

I'm hesitant to respond; however, I'm doing so.

As human beings, we tend to put up with more from family members than we do with those outside of our family.

I have a son, daughter, nieces, and nephews who do things that I don't agree with. Yet, I love them and extend grace unto them; whereas, I wouldn't put up with the same behavior from others.

Is that right? I don't know. I'm not a psychologist or therapist.

However, I am a father. I have a family. I'm a husband, a father, and an uncle. As such, I will love my family, defend them, and extol their virtues despite anything else.

Would you not do the same for your family?

I can understand what you're saying, but would you not do the same for one of your own family members?

I will bow out of this conversation now.

Take care.

I have long admired the contributions of cynwulf, and I thank you for that.

There's another open source project born out of a need to fight a common cause where the participants are infighting and making themselves look stupid.

I'm just a silent lurker who had to chime in.

You have never understood my thinking or motivations so unsurprisingly hadn't a clue this time. Have you never heard the expression to "give someone enough rope to hang themselves"? You both have done that rather spectacularly! In fact I was planning to post this morning something like . . . "Have y'all embarrassed yourself enough yet? Is it time to put this thread out of its misery?" Mutual ego stroking was the solution which just perpetuates the delusion . . .

Oh so superior. Have you ever heard of "the mote and the beam?". Your arrogance prevents you from understanding my "thinking or motivations".

That's it. I will not argue further with a fanatic. Have fun in your little dictatorship, nurturing your sycophants... This is your life after all.

Now, can we go back to discussing Devuan...thankyou.

By the site admin's own admission: you get special treatment.  This shows that they practice selectiveness and favouritism, which is no better than any other sites that they have criticed heavily in the past.

You have never understood my thinking or motivations so unsurprisingly hadn't a clue this time. Have you never heard the expression to "give someone enough rope to hang themselves"? You both have done that rather spectacularly! In fact I was planning to post this morning something like . . . "Have y'all embarrassed yourself enough yet? Is it time to put this thread out of its misery?" Mutual ego stroking was the solution which just perpetuates the delusion . . .

Good grief! What a drama queen!  Exit left or stick around. The choice is yours. The injured party here is not your ego but the free software community who has suffered your hissy fits.

Actions or non-actions have purpose though in this case I think the point has fallen on deaf ears . . .

Also my main gripe is not with you, but with the thoroughly biased administration of this site.  Double standards and hypocrisy where "special" members can blaze a trail of offtopic babble, where certain other members have the admin on their case seemingly 24/7, their threads locked, posts deleted, get issued with bans, etc - just irks me somewhat. By the site admin's own admission: you get special treatment.  This shows that they practice selectiveness and favouritism, which is no better than any other sites that they have criticed heavily in the past.

But as golinux has said, I actually contribute nothing here and actually have no right to complain about how the site is administered. I can accept that and it's why I am voting with my feet. I only returned to reply to the tgread you made directly targetted at me  Also note - it has not been closed. Consider that if I had made this thread, the admin would have intervened to get the last word and closed by now.

@andyprough: You don't appear to have even the vaguest idea what this is about.

All I wanted was a damned community repository, to do right by Devuan.  Full stop. had I known the crap that thread would spawn, I NEVER would have posted it. This is deeply saddening to see this and the offshoot thread that came before it.

And that's all I've to say about that.

If you feel that this thread should be deleted, please do so. blackhole could easily email me (if he wishes) in order to rectify things between us.

I apologize for the things that I've done/said/posted that bring reproach upon the Devuan project. That was never my intention. Please forgive me.

Feel free to email me if you prefer. You can click on my email under my avatar.

I will soon be offline. I look forward to seeing your answer in order to try and make things right with you. However, I may not see your response for a while. If that's the case, please forgive me.

Can you tell me exactly what I did, said, or posted that offended you?

Great that you made this thread!

And you can, as apparently you have a special licence for this, as proclaimed by the admins here...  and this is now even more apparent to the observer. You're more than just a twat, you're one of the numerous minor embarasssments to this project - thought rest assured your free reign will continue.

Anyone else posting such quality of content would have been quickly censured, but by golinux' own admission you may freely troll this site, due to the significance of your contributions to whatever it is you contribute to... so go ahead my man, knock yourself out.  Let's see what you're all about...

Sigh

And you can, as apparently you have a special licence for this, as proclaimed by the admins here...  and this is now even more apparent to the observer. You're more than just a twat, you're one of the numerous minor embarasssments to this project - thought rest assured your free reign will continue.

Anyone else posting such quality of content would have been quickly censured, but by golinux' own admission you may freely troll this site, due to the significance of your contributions to whatever it is you contribute to... so go ahead my man, knock yourself out.  Let's see what you're all about...