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Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

dummy@example.com (mweishaar) — Wed, 18 Jan 2023 18:37:42 +0000

webman wrote:

Hallo!
Thanks, but there is nothing like this on my debian!
I just beginning from scratch using devuan and even there, there is nothing like this.
On devuan, gvfs is installed, but not active running.
Manfred
andyprough wrote:
Wouldn't you just find the service associated with the process and un-check that service's annoying run-levels with 'sudo sysv-rc-conf'?
Maybe I'm being dense and this has nothing to do with services. But this is usually one of the first places I look to get misbehaving autostart processes under control.

sudo apt install sysv-rc-conf maybe?

Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

dummy@example.com (webman) — Tue, 10 Jan 2023 08:15:09 +0000

Hi!

Comes to my mind, but must learn about it first.
Probably I need it on that debian-vm.

Manfred

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Or just purge that GVFS shite.

Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

dummy@example.com (webman) — Tue, 10 Jan 2023 08:12:45 +0000

Hallo!

Thanks, but there is nothing like this on my debian!
I just beginning from scratch using devuan and even there, there is nothing like this.
On devuan, gvfs is installed, but not active running.

Manfred

andyprough wrote:

Wouldn't you just find the service associated with the process and un-check that service's annoying run-levels with 'sudo sysv-rc-conf'?
Maybe I'm being dense and this has nothing to do with services. But this is usually one of the first places I look to get misbehaving autostart processes under control.

Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick) — Tue, 10 Jan 2023 06:47:49 +0000

Or just purge that GVFS shite.

Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

dummy@example.com (andyprough) — Tue, 10 Jan 2023 01:43:42 +0000

Wouldn't you just find the service associated with the process and un-check that service's annoying run-levels with 'sudo sysv-rc-conf'?

Maybe I'm being dense and this has nothing to do with services. But this is usually one of the first places I look to get misbehaving autostart processes under control.

Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick) — Mon, 09 Jan 2023 15:58:46 +0000

webman wrote:

You implicitely said, under systemV/etc this is not the case?

No.

Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

dummy@example.com (webman) — Mon, 09 Jan 2023 15:49:34 +0000

Hi,

thank you.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I think that user process behaviour is dependent on the KillUserProcesses option in logind.conf so it can be disabled under both systemd (/etc/systemd/logind.conf) or sysvinit/elogind (/etc/elongind/logind.conf) by setting that to yes.
So I think the behaviour would be the same under both init systems. Perhaps try it and report back? I might be wrong.

I've already read and tried this (using the "exclude root" option) - but with different success, so the question
came up for me. The remaining processes are something like gfvs.*

You implicitely said, under systemV/etc this is not the case?

I have a lot of computers, am a linux-noob (nearly), countless VMs (kvm+lxc)
and would not be able to migrate that all fast, but were probably unable to work
with different systems.

Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick) — Mon, 09 Jan 2023 15:29:49 +0000

I think that user process behaviour is dependent on the KillUserProcesses option in logind.conf so it can be disabled under both systemd (/etc/systemd/logind.conf) or sysvinit/elogind (/etc/elongind/logind.conf) by setting that to yes.

So I think the behaviour would be the same under both init systems. Perhaps try it and report back? I might be wrong.

Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

dummy@example.com (webman) — Mon, 09 Jan 2023 01:07:07 +0000

Hello!
In the beginning, I was a fan of systemd, even I haven't know to use it, because
I never understood systemv (init-system).
Now, on debian (for several years), I am facing on this and that problems, which seem
to be systemd related.
I have a KVM guest with several accounts.
Astoundingly, each of this have processes running after boot and
independent, if they are logged in or not.
This is problematic, because for some users, I use a homedir which
resides on cifs/smb. On the host, these are zfs filesystems which I want
to snapshot and I wish, that all processes are terminated. For the moment,
I kill them und force unmount by root.

The question is, how this behaves on Devuan.

Thanks so far,
Manfred