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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How reduce starting Xorg time?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=36290#p36290</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Im amazed any system that old still works </p><p>I would replace <br />PSU<br />OS HDD<br />and replace thermal paste</p><p>Also check all FANS to be working</p><p>Replace Celey or i3 with an Xeon if you can source it from Aliexpress for that old socket type</p><p>Might be worth UPGRADING to an X58 or X79<br /> instead of a system that old - Socket 478/771/775</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2022 03:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How reduce starting Xorg time?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>alexkemp wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... means that even if you currently have a working system, at some point something will upgrade ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>+1</p><p>Exactly the case with my Nvidia 340XX legacy cards with (up to now) no <span class="bbc">chimaera</span> drivers.<br />The same thing happened with my Matrox cards a few years ago.</p><p>So ...<br />Then it was <span class="bbu">no more Matrox</span>, ever.<br />And as of this year, it is <span class="bbu">no more Nvidia</span>, ever.</p><p>If and when I need to get new cards, they will be AMD.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>alexkemp wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... cannot fix stupidity. Learn your lesson, sigh &amp; walk away.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Quite so.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2022 01:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>deepforest wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p> Can you you explain why linux community hate nvidia?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>This is a very old story that affects multiple (so-called) hardware suppliers. The <em>&quot;so-called&quot;</em> is in there because of the growth of Firmware within hardware. The hardware manufacturers love that firmware because it allows them to keep control. They may refuse to release the software source (also to keep control) and then are hated by Linux adherents.</p><p>All the above means that even if you currently have a working system, at some point something will upgrade &amp; the mfc may refuse to update *it&#039;s* firmware &amp; immediately your expensive hardware becomes a brick.</p><p>You cannot fix stupidity. Learn your lesson, sigh &amp; walk away.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (alexkemp)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2022 00:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How reduce starting Xorg time?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>deepforest wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>i.e. using linux - problems should be expected <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>No, not really.</p><p>I have an AMD card that functions perfectly under Linux thanks to the efforts of the (paid!) AMD developers who have open sourced their graphics stack (apart from the firmware) and contribute actively to Linux development.</p><p>In Windows I cannot use the open source amdgpu driver so I have to use AMDGPU-PRO instead and the performance is *terrible*, especially in respect of power consumption and temperature management. The blobby driver is shit.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Agree, Can you you explain why linux community hate nvidia? A am also love AMD too for free and opensource politics. But now many software and games developers is nvidia oriented.<br />Here example <a href="https://developer.blender.org/T96614" rel="nofollow">https://developer.blender.org/T96614</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (deepforest)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2022 00:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How reduce starting Xorg time?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=36270#p36270</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>deepforest wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>i.e. using linux - problems should be expected <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>No, not really.</p><p>I have an AMD card that functions perfectly under Linux thanks to the efforts of the (paid!) AMD developers who have open sourced their graphics stack (apart from the firmware) and contribute actively to Linux development.</p><p>In Windows I cannot use the open source amdgpu driver so I have to use AMDGPU-PRO instead and the performance is *terrible*, especially in respect of power consumption and temperature management. The blobby driver is shit.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 14:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>thierrybo wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>it is stuck 18 seconds on &quot;Initializing extension XINERAMA&quot;</p></div></blockquote></div><p>try disable, but no result</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>Section &quot;ServerLayout&quot;
    Identifier     &quot;Layout0&quot;
    Screen      0  &quot;Screen0&quot; 0 0
    InputDevice    &quot;Keyboard0&quot; &quot;CoreKeyboard&quot;
    InputDevice    &quot;Mouse0&quot; &quot;CorePointer&quot;
    Option         &quot;Xinerama&quot; &quot;0&quot;
EndSection

Section &quot;Files&quot;
EndSection

Section &quot;ServerFlags&quot;
    Option         &quot;IgnoreABI&quot; &quot;1&quot;
    Option         &quot;Xinerama&quot; &quot;0&quot;
EndSection</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (deepforest)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 13:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Yes but if the ABI isn&#039;t supported then problems should be expected.</p></div></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>i.e. using linux - problems should be expected <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></div></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 13:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes but if the ABI isn&#039;t supported then problems should be expected.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>There is also this:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>X.Org log wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>[    44.886] (II) LoadModule: &quot;nvidia&quot;
[    44.887] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[    45.134] (II) Module nvidia: vendor=&quot;NVIDIA Corporation&quot;
[    45.134] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[    45.134] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    45.134] ================ WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING ================
[    45.134] This server has a video driver ABI version of 25.2 that this
driver does not officially support.  Please check
http://www.nvidia.com/ for driver updates or downgrade to an X
server with a supported driver ABI.
[    45.134] =================================================================</code></pre></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><p>its just warning</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 11:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>thierrybo wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>it is stuck 18 seconds on &quot;Initializing extension XINERAMA&quot;</p></div></blockquote></div><p>thanx, i will try to disabe it</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 11:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There is also this:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>X.Org log wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>[    44.886] (II) LoadModule: &quot;nvidia&quot;
[    44.887] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[    45.134] (II) Module nvidia: vendor=&quot;NVIDIA Corporation&quot;
[    45.134] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[    45.134] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    45.134] ================ WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING ================
[    45.134] This server has a video driver ABI version of 25.2 that this
driver does not officially support.  Please check
http://www.nvidia.com/ for driver updates or downgrade to an X
server with a supported driver ABI.
[    45.134] =================================================================</code></pre></div></div></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 10:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>it is stuck 18 seconds on &quot;Initializing extension XINERAMA&quot;</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 09:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Dutch_Master wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><ul><li><p>1. install an SSD</p></li><li><p>2. upgrade your hardware</p></li></ul><p>You&#039;re welcome <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>booting is quick but appearing desktop is ~20sec</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 01:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Have you tried nouveau?</p><p>I&#039;ll get my coat...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>with nouveau is much longer then proprietary, also nouveau have poor performance in games</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 01:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried nouveau?</p><p>I&#039;ll get my coat...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2022 18:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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