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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Crowz 4.0 Test build Chimaera]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=44211#p44211</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I tried this distro. Installing with calamares worked flawlessly. Only downside is calamares says debian instead of devuan or crowz. The general idea is simplicity and darkness. Ok i can see the concept. I am fan of simplicity but not the biggest fan of darkness. I tried both jwm and also installed xfce and it worked fine too. No bloat applications just normal stuff to be expected. You can do what you like. It has sysVinit although i did not try runit or openrc which i like more. What is the big plus of this&#160; distro ? Well calamares installation is the big plus. Simplicity is a plus too but i can see not everyone liking jwm. There could have been lxde, openbox or xfce. I like the ideas behind this distribution of devuan. If i was to build an iso i would use calamares and a simple desktop like they did here.<br />Even xfce is light enough to be shipped for new users. What i could add (sorry but i don&#039;t remember having such thing) is a welcome script before installing with some infos about this distro or some basic commands so i can suggest it to new users.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2023 15:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42991#p42991</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi oui, yes, I am very much a&#160; believer in using old computers, with lightweight distros. </p><p>I used to use #! (Crunchbang Linux) until its demise, when I turned to AntiX Base, but they started to add too many things to their menus, at which time I moved over to Devuan Live, it was easy to install, but I still prefer the smaller distros, &amp; Crowz fits the bill very nicely. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2023 18:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Crowz 4.0 Test build Chimaera]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42990#p42990</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Camtaf</p><p>It is simply the best distro I know!</p><p>All our world live TO MUCH OVER the reason: all always bigger, greater, faster etc. Crowz show us how to do different, how to respect ressources.<br />Different from Ubuntu, the friend of the world, the modest Crowz continue to offer with Devuan stuff for the future with the 64 bit division but continue to provide stuff in 32 bit for the billion of those computer existing in the world and being today the only one base poor people of the world can use especially to educate their children using them for school word!</p><p>On my DELL laptop, Crowz start like a jet. I can open app&#039;s 14 seconds after the initial boot hit! No other distro does that! And in a time where the silly dilly US president Biden did create a energy problem, that is very important! In the past, we did have linux&#039;es like Puppy (came from Australia, the antipode!), we did shutdown the PC one time only the week! Today, we do that 30 times the day because the generated war and energy crisis from the freedom enemy&#039;s from America!</p><p>14 second is an ideal time for me (the actual Devuan Puppy needs very much than ONE complete minute also because idiotic questions in little start (or weellcome windows! weelcome is it not: it says «you idiots..»!)</p><p>as we have an intense life, we open and shutdown the PC all the time like other their smart phone...</p><p>oh! good! buy a smartphone, that is the solution! Linux can after that need 5 or 10 minutes to start!</p><p>no, smartphone with power is very, very expensive, I am sorry (this is the reason why Apple, Google etc. are so rich)!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2023 17:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42987#p42987</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Crowz JWM now installed to my 2x Igel D220 thin clients, (now fitted with 4GB ram), 1.46GHz Atom processors, one has a 16GB DoM, the other has a 60GB SSD squeezed inside attached by an extension cable, both working very nicely. </p><p>Also, now one of my HP T520 thin clients, 1.2GHz dual core AMD processor, 2GB ram, 16GB M2 SSD, running well too.</p><p>I&#039;m really liking Crowz for use on old computers. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2023 14:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42837#p42837</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>trying to use jwm (installed in supplement, but principal deskmanager in crowz 32 bit, don&#039;t forget) did slim nervt and ask for the root password from crowz!</p><p>what is the root password for crowz? what is to answer in such a situation?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2023 20:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42836#p42836</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Non-English people will have to add some files in /us/share/fonts, or .../hunspell, or .../tesseract-ocr to make their keyboard and spell usage adequate. and they will have to adapt the commutation of her keyboard. in Puppy Linux, I use both to do that:</p><p>- xorg.conf (as Puppy Linux continues to be full compatible with it ;-) ! Thank you Barry Kauler!)</p><p>- the Xfce4 settings to interchange one of the 4 keyboards hitting on SHIFT+CTRL.</p><p>This seems to become terribly difficult in big distrtibutions (&quot;Zu viele Köche versalzen den Brei...&quot;)!</p><p>Attention: Crowz install only a part of the ttf fonts of the familie Liberation!</p><p>How to write Asian languages:</p><p>use your browser and go to</p><p><a href="https://www.inputking.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.inputking.com/</a></p><p>(the Input King editor in the browser is good but includes no save routine: you have to do that yourself with CTRL c or CTRL x or mark text and hit on the right mouse key and &quot;copy¨!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2023 19:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>the best files and tree browser Nemo ( = files in divers installations) is not in above texts as it is often not easy to start from the command line. </p><p>appfinder stats it without problem as «files»!</p><p>why do linux app&#039;s more and more have 2 names (nemo = files, or epiphany-browser = web)? it is nonsens pure!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2023 19:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>before I did make my snapshots, I did have to adapt my </p><p>/home/f/.config/openbox/<strong>menu.xml</strong></p><p>with following text part:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>&lt;separator label=&quot;C R O W Z&quot;/&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &lt;separator/&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &lt;item label=&quot;App finder&quot;&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;action name=&quot;Execute&quot;&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;command&gt;xfce4-appfinder&lt;/command&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;/action&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &lt;/item&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &lt;separator/&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &lt;item label=&quot;Run&quot;&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;action name=&quot;Execute&quot;&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;command&gt;grun&lt;/command&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;/action&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &lt;/item&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &lt;separator/&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &lt;item label=&quot;File Manager PCmanFM&quot;&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;action name=&quot;Execute&quot;&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;command&gt;x-file-manager&lt;/command&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;/action&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &lt;/item&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &lt;item label=&quot;File Manager Thunar&quot;&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;action name=&quot;Execute&quot;&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;command&gt;thunar&lt;/command&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;/action&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &lt;/item&gt;</p></div></blockquote></div><p>as well as my</p><p>/etc/jwm/<strong>system.jwmrc</strong></p><p>with</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>&lt;Program icon=&quot;grun.png&quot; label=&quot;run&quot;&gt;grun&lt;/Program&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;Program icon=&quot;appfinder.png&quot; label=&quot;appfinder&quot;&gt;xfce4-appfinder&lt;/Program&gt;<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;Program icon=&quot;terminal.png&quot; label=&quot;Terminal&quot;&gt;xterm&lt;/Program&gt;</p></div></blockquote></div><p>(but it seems so, as I did forget to install grun :-o !)</p><p>xfce4-appfinder require only a minimal among of byte (in an installation having about 3 GB or a few more in daedalus)! why continue to use those old *.xml documents at it change! it is nonsens to spare at appfinder!!!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2023 19:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42833#p42833</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes I did start the from USB memory card reader stick the snapshot but not in the RAM (although it would be easy on my PC but the start is to long...). From (very old memory card SD 2GB) the start is acceptable. Not to slow.</p><p>But it would be faster from hard disk of course. Which start procedure in /etc/grub.d/40_custom is to use to start the iso from harddisk?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2023 19:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I did open a few minutes ago my .bash_history and the application did mark the wrong spell places in the doc.</p><p>I did try to open «aout» to see which app nemo (I prefer nemo!) did open for that very simple hiden text document. In «about», that document does not say where it is! I suppose it was abiword. In this case, the spell checking in abiword would work correctly.</p><p>but the other applications (internal editor window&#039;s from the 3 installed browsers (epiphany, luakit, midori)? and the main text editor, mousepad?</p><p>as I did never learn English, it is a very important function for me! Actually, no spell checking seems to work in «midori». You poor reader of my literature!</p><p>(which system I am using now: Crowz64Daedalus started from USB stick!)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2023 19:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42831#p42831</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I will review with you the meet problems...</p><p>The first one is that the clock is not right in the snapshot. as the use of the snapshot will be my very frequent usage it is not friendly (and it is difficult to recognize if I am using the full installation or if I am using the snapshot to warn me: it is now time to go to bed...)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2023 19:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42830#p42830</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>This evening, I have do an decisive step using Crowz. If no error messages will appear in the future ( ;-) ) I have 2 64-bit installations and 2 refractasnapshots starting well.</p><p>each one for</p><p>- crowz based on Chimerea updated to the actual level</p><p>snapshot size 1300 MB</p><p>- crowz, the same installation, but upgraded on Daedalus.</p><p>snapshot size 1700 MB</p><p>It is of course a lot more that the initial size of 710 MB.</p><p>And I did have a lot of new tentatives to reach this (for me in my eyes) actual success.</p><p>The last ones did happen:</p><p>- installation from more packages: using sudo apt update and sudo apt install x y z<br />- upgrade to Daedalus: using synaptic (do not forget to open the «DETAILS» windows and answer all with «keep» excepted «restart all deamons» Y !</p><p>My .bash_history:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>sudo apt install deborphan xli menu jwm refractasnapshot-base refractainstaller-base aqemu winetricks anbox midori didiwiki luakit wordgrinder-x11 mgp cups xsane tesseract-ocr gimagereader samba mtpaint mhwaveedit nted granule kturtle swi-prolog gforth marble-qt merkaartor olive-editor gramps librecad thunar nemo abiword gnumeric osmo gnucash gimp inkscape aeskulap</code></pre></div><p>a lot of app&#039;s for families with children, the poor persons in Linux!</p><p>and the rest of the bash_history:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>ln -s /usr/bin/mousepad /usr/bin/ed<br />mousepad .bash_history<br />sudo umount /mnt<br />sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt<br />xrandr -o left<br />xrandr -o normal<br />setxkbmap us intl<br />mousepad .bash_history<br />sudo refractasnapshot<br />cd /mnt<br />ed .bash_history<br />sudo refractasnapshot</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Why that?</p><p>I take care about the content and order in my bash_history: it is my memory what I do and how I do that ;-) !</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2023 18:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=42768#p42768</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>oui wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>actually, my new system was unused. it boots in under 15 s.</p><p>Yesterday the comparable analog test with gnuinos need very more than one minute.</p><p>As because of electricity sparing because of the attack from Biden against Russia I am turning off the PC each time a go away and start new all the day of lot of times, this aspect of the use become a very important detail. Gnuinos is now dead for me, if I don´t find some way to change that...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Actually, the boot time with vdev as device manager is optimized for runit only (indead, the default init system shown by <strong>choose-init-udeb</strong> in the installer-isos), and according to my analog tests, the times recorded do not substantially differ when compared to eudev. However, I have in mind to extend this optimization for other inits, although I won&#039;t do that until august. In the meantime, if you are running gnuinos with vdev and sysvinit, I suggest that you either change the init system to runit (apt-get install runit runit-init getty-run) or that you replace the device manager with eudev (apt-get install eudev). </p><p>While I&#039;m particularly happy with vdev, there is room to do things in the project. For example, another possible idea I&#039;m considering is to unify both libeudev and libudev-compat in a way that the behaviour of the shared library will depend on the running device manager. It wouldn&#039;t be that complicated. But I&#039;m aware that I made some mistakes in the past during the vdev integration that might have broken the system, and I&#039;ll ensure that it never happens again. Thanks for your patience!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2023 21:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Re visited Crowz/chimaera/JWM on my HP T520 thin clients, using a DP (display port) cable, &amp; a HD (1920x1080) monitor, it loaded &amp; worked, so then I decided to install it. </p><p>First problem I encountered was that it wouldn&#039;t install to my internal 8GB M2 SSD, I&#039;ve got to have at least 10GB(!?). </p><p>So, I tried it with a 16GB M2 SSD, this was OK, however, it took 4GB for a swap partition! </p><p>That&#039;s a bit extreme, I&#039;m thinking, especially as this machine only has 2GB ram, which is plenty, even for Devuan Live installs, without any swap. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>(P.S. I got a seg fault when I tried a manual install, but could be because I hadn&#039;t checked the download; just thought I&#039;d mention it. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> )</p><p>Overall, I still like this version of Devuan.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2023 09:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>actually, my new system was unused. it boots in under 15 s.</p><p>Yesterday the comparable analog test with gnuinos need very more than one minute.</p><p>As because of electricity sparing because of the attack from Biden against Russia I am turning off the PC each time a go away and start new all the day of lot of times, this aspect of the use become a very important detail. Gnuinos is now dead for me, if I don´t find some way to change that...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 21:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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