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			<title><![CDATA[Re: A Possible Future For Devuan and Linux]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Bump!</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>andyprough wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Do we have anything like pledge in Linux-land? Looks like a security must-have.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>We do now:</p><p><a href="https://justine.lol/pledge/" rel="nofollow">Porting OpenBSD pledge() to Linux</a></p><p>Nice.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Wow, who better than a world famous internet troll to create a perfect security tool for Linux? Way to go Justine! She&#039;s the kind of highly productive troll I want to be when I grow up.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: A Possible Future For Devuan and Linux]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Bump!</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>andyprough wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Do we have anything like pledge in Linux-land? Looks like a security must-have.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>We do now:</p><p><a href="https://justine.lol/pledge/" rel="nofollow">Porting OpenBSD pledge() to Linux</a></p><p>Nice.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2022 08:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so what&#039;s to say that Debian will not at some day revert to systemd just as easily as soon as everyone returns to the fold? Once such a rift cracks open there CAN BE NO turning back! I don&#039;t even consider any distro that so much as makes systemd available! Question is, can Devuan exist if Debian goes totally under?&#160; THAT I cannot answer being just a mortal who has no use for a computer beyond plugging my guitar into it or tooling around with the google flt-sim.&#160; &#160;</p><p>my 2 cents</p><p>-- <br /><a href="https://i.imgur.com/kvN9DNF.png" rel="nofollow">https://i.imgur.com/kvN9DNF.png</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2022 01:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.&#160; I&#039;ve noticed there are many things this misspelled init-system <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&#160; does do well.&#160; Despite all it&#039;s drawbacks it would be wise to learn from the things it does do well.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 19:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>andyprough wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Do we have anything like pledge in Linux-land?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>It can almost be mimicked by using <a href="https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/manpages/capabilities.7.en.html" rel="nofollow">capabilities(7)</a> but the implementation wouldn&#039;t be as straightforward. The init-system-that-shall-not-be-named (or spelled correctly) offers capability-based restrictions for unit files: <a href="https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/systemd/systemd.exec.5.en.html#CAPABILITIES" rel="nofollow">https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/sy … PABILITIES</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 17:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I would think all FOSS software would pledge to maintain Richard Stallman&#039;s four essential freedoms of free software.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 16:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>EDIT: and suckless have already incorporated <a href="https://man.openbsd.org/pledge" rel="nofollow">pledge(2)</a> into the source code, which is nice.</p><p><a href="https://git.suckless.org/dwm/file/dwm.c.html#l2146" rel="nofollow">https://git.suckless.org/dwm/file/dwm.c.html#l2146</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Wow! Do we have anything like pledge in Linux-land? Looks like a security must-have.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 16:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>that is what i do, just git clone that way i can update it via git if there is a version change, update, etc.</p><p>openbsd needs no extra packages to make dwm, you just need to uncomment a few lines in the config.mk file that openbsd needs to run and the config.mk file tells you what to do via comments.</p><p>I comment out the Xinerama fields in the config.mk as i dont use more than one screen so not needed in my case.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Nice, I&#039;m going to have to try it soon. Very much appreciated.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 16:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: A Possible Future For Devuan and Linux]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>andyprough wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I play around with a few linux but my main machine runs encrypted openbsd and dwm / suckless setup. I think in future i will base most of my computer needs around if it will work properly on openbsd first. I like where Devuan is heading being init free but that is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the future of computing.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Regarding DWM, I&#039;m assuming you can just &#039;git clone&#039; and &#039;make install&#039; like on Devuan? Does openbsd have all the libxft-dev libx11-dev and libxinerama-dev dependencies?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>that is what i do, just git clone that way i can update it via git if there is a version change, update, etc.</p><p>openbsd needs no extra packages to make dwm, you just need to uncomment a few lines in the config.mk file that openbsd needs to run and the config.mk file tells you what to do via comments.</p><p>I comment out the Xinerama fields in the config.mk as i dont use more than one screen so not needed in my case.</p><div class="codebox"><pre class="vscroll"><code>      1 # dwm version
      2 VERSION = 6.3
      3 
      4 # Customize below to fit your system
      5 
      6 # paths
      7 PREFIX = /usr/local
      8 MANPREFIX = ${PREFIX}/share/man
      9 
     10 X11INC = /usr/X11R6/include
     11 X11LIB = /usr/X11R6/lib
     12 
     13 # Xinerama, comment if you don&#039;t want it
     14 XINERAMALIBS  = -lXinerama
     15 XINERAMAFLAGS = -DXINERAMA
     16 
     17 # freetype
     18 FREETYPELIBS = -lfontconfig -lXft
     19 FREETYPEINC = /usr/include/freetype2
     20 # OpenBSD (uncomment)
     21 #FREETYPEINC = ${X11INC}/freetype2
     22 
     23 # includes and libs
     24 INCS = -I${X11INC} -I${FREETYPEINC}
     25 LIBS = -L${X11LIB} -lX11 ${XINERAMALIBS} ${FREETYPELIBS}
     26 
     27 # flags
     28 CPPFLAGS = -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=200809L -DVERSION=\&quot;${VERSION}\&quot; ${XINERAMAFLAGS}
     29 #CFLAGS   = -g -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -O0 ${INCS} ${CPPFLAGS}
     30 CFLAGS   = -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Wno-deprecated-declarations -Os ${INCS} ${CPPFLAGS}
     31 LDFLAGS  = ${LIBS}
     32 
     33 # Solaris
     34 #CFLAGS = -fast ${INCS} -DVERSION=\&quot;${VERSION}\&quot;
     35 #LDFLAGS = ${LIBS}
     36 
     37 # compiler and linker
     38 CC = cc</code></pre></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 08:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: A Possible Future For Devuan and Linux]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I used to make my own port for dwm, customised to my tastes. It&#039;s actually simpler than making De{bi,vu}an packages: <a href="https://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/" rel="nofollow">https://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/</a></p><p>The comp &amp; xbase <a href="https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#FilesNeeded" rel="nofollow">file sets</a> are needed to make the port but they&#039;re part of the base system. There is a vanilla example available as well: <a href="https://github.com/openbsd/ports/tree/master/x11/dwm" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/openbsd/ports/tree/master/x11/dwm</a></p><p>EDIT: and suckless have already incorporated <a href="https://man.openbsd.org/pledge" rel="nofollow">pledge(2)</a> into the source code, which is nice.</p><p><a href="https://git.suckless.org/dwm/file/dwm.c.html#l2146" rel="nofollow">https://git.suckless.org/dwm/file/dwm.c.html#l2146</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2022 17:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I play around with a few linux but my main machine runs encrypted openbsd and dwm / suckless setup. I think in future i will base most of my computer needs around if it will work properly on openbsd first. I like where Devuan is heading being init free but that is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the future of computing.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Regarding DWM, I&#039;m assuming you can just &#039;git clone&#039; and &#039;make install&#039; like on Devuan? Does openbsd have all the libxft-dev libx11-dev and libxinerama-dev dependencies?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2022 17:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I play around with a few linux but my main machine runs encrypted openbsd and dwm / suckless setup. I think in future i will base most of my computer needs around if it will work properly on openbsd first. I like where Devuan is heading being init free but that is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the future of computing.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (hevidevi)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2022 13:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MiyoLinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>andyprough wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>You mis-spelled...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>So did you. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p></div></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Alternative forms<br />mis-spell</p></div></blockquote></div><p> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/misspell" rel="nofollow">https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/misspell</a></p><p>&#039;Misspell&#039; is most commonly mis-spelled as &quot;mispell&quot;, whereas &#039;misspelled&#039; is most commonly mis-spelled as &quot;misspelt&quot;. Misspell is one of the 100 most commonly mis-spelled words in English, but not in its alternate form &#039;mis-spell&#039;.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2022 16:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>andyprough wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>You mis-spelled...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>So did you. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2022 03:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>jacksprat wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>systemD</p></div></blockquote></div><p>What is that? Do you in fact mean &quot;systemd&quot;? FFS... <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/mad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="mad" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>The OP was probably referring to IBM&#039;s system-D and just missed the hyphen. No need to get angry over a simple missed key press.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>That already exists: <a href="https://www.pkgsrc.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.pkgsrc.org/</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p>You mis-spelled <a href="https://github.com/void-linux/xbps" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/void-linux/xbps</a>. See? Keyboard errors can happen to anyone.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 22:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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