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			<title><![CDATA[Re: trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm)]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34284#p34284</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>manyroads wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>udiskie -s --automount --notify &amp;</code></pre></div></div></blockquote></div><p>^ This. GVFS should be taking care of automounting. Use the relevant options in thunar to configure it.</p><p>I could bring up a lot of other potential issues in that file but they would all be off topic here so I will restrict myself to observing that ~/.xsessionrc is read by /bin/sh so <span class="bbc">bash -c</span> is redundant and also that <span class="bbc">&amp;</span> should only be appended to a command if it doesn&#039;t return the prompt when run from a terminal — unnecessary fork()ing can cause race conditions and strange problems. And it&#039;s best to use <span class="bbc">update-rc.d</span> or <span class="bbc">sysv-rc-conf</span> to enable services rather than starting them manually. And don&#039;t use <span class="bbc">xrandr</span> to set brightness, that&#039;s just a software alteration and reduces the available colour range. And [snip]</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2022 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm)]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34280#p34280</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The chimaera live does work... the remaining variable then must involve something in my .xsessionrc.&#160; I have included that below. Maybe something problematic obvious jumps out. </p><div class="codebox"><pre class="vscroll"><code>###########################################
#
# .xprofile (common settings) for
# i3wm &amp; dwm window managers on Arch
# Mark Rabideau @ eirenicon.org (ManyRoads)
# 
###########################################

# compositor
 xcompmgr -CnfF -I-.015 -O-.03 -D6 -t-1 -l-3 -r4.2 -o.5 &amp;
# picom &amp;

# shared common keybindings (applications)
sxhkd -c ~/.config/sxhkd/base.conf &amp;

# Dropbox &amp;  Google Drive #####################
#sleep 30 &amp;&amp; vgrive &amp;
pkill dropbox 
# the display= removes problem systray icon.
sleep 10 &amp;&amp; DISPLAY= dropbox start -i &amp; 
#sleep 20 &amp;&amp; dropbox start -i &amp;   

# set network manager #####################
nm-applet &amp;

# bluetooth
/usr/bin/blueman-applet &amp;
#blueman &amp;

# set sound functions #####################
start-pulseaudio-x11 &amp; 
pnmixer &amp;
#amixer -c 0 set Master playback 25% unmute &amp;

# power related functions #####################
lxqt-powermanagement &amp;#
#xfce4-power-manager &amp;
sudo tlp start 
sudo powertop --auto-tune
xautolock -time 8 -locker i3lock-fancy &amp;

#Dell fan control ~ (ref. https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/controlling-dell-fan-speeds-temperature-on-ubuntu-debian-linux/) 
sudo /etc/init.d/i8kmon start &amp;
i8kctl fan 1 1 &amp;

# Red-spectrum &amp; gamma light shift #####################
redshift-gtk -l 39.3914:-104.7528 &amp;
xrandr --output eDP-1  --primary --brightness 0.9 --mode 1920x1080 &amp;

# keyboard settings #####################
/bin/bash -c  &quot;sleep 5 &amp;&amp; setxkbmap -option compose:ralt&quot; &amp;
#xsetroot -xcf /usr/share/icons/Bibata-Original-Amber/cursors/left_ptr 34 &amp;
#setxkbmap -option compose:ralt &amp; 
	
# gnome settings #####################
gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=pkcs11 &amp;

# Polkit #####################
#lxpolkit &amp;
/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 &amp;

# Notification #####################
dunst -conf  ~/.config/dunst/dunstrc &amp;
apt-notifier &amp;

# wallpaper ##################### 
# currently using nitrogen to manually change wallpapers
feh --randomize --bg-fill /home/mark/Dropbox/wallpapers/VladStudio/* 

# Caffeine #####################
caffeine-indicator &amp;

# USB unmounter #####################
udiskie -s --automount --notify &amp;
 
# misc #####################
diodon &amp;
touchpad-indicator &amp;
# sleep 15 &amp;&amp; /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/my-weather-indicator/bin/my-weather-indicator &amp;
/usr/libexec/gvfsd &amp;
/usr/libexec/gvfsd-trash &amp;</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (manyroads)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2022 18:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34280#p34280</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm)]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34265#p34265</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>manyroads wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I think gvfs does not like sysV</p></div></blockquote></div><p>So then why does it work under sysvinit in both my installed system (see earlier screenshot for proof of this) and also in the chimaera live ISO? Try the live image for yourself and report back.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2022 23:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34265#p34265</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm)]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34264#p34264</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@Head_on_a_stick You got it.... Functioning Trash to me means when I setup Thunar I get the option to either move an item into Trash or Delete it (bypassing Trash). Right now on Devuan and MX (sysV init) I do NOT have the option to place items into Trash and delete them later. I can only Delete (now). </p><p>trash:/// is actually located at $Home/.local/share/Trash.</p><p>Whether or not I have &#039;functioning&#039; trash, the folder exists on both (Devuan and MX). It only functions on systemd MX.</p><p>Later that same day in a city &#039;not far away&#039;... I decided to try and see what happens with antiX21 (runit). It works just fine.&#160; Trash functions exactly as it should. Aside from my lack of skills and manually dexterity, I am left thinking the problem has to do with sysV init.&#160; I think gvfs does not like sysV.</p><p>I am left wondering.... &quot;How many angels,ARE able to stand on the head of a pin?&quot;</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (manyroads)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2022 23:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34264#p34264</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm)]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34262#p34262</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>manyroads wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>functioning trash</p></div></blockquote></div><p>^ What does this mean? You will have to explain it to me in as much detail as possible because I don&#039;t use graphical file managers so I have no idea how &quot;trash&quot; is supposed to work.</p><p>When I load up devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso in a VM I can navigate to the &quot;Trash&quot; [sic] side pane shortcut (identified as <span class="bbc">trash:///</span> in the location bar) and if I highlight a file elsewhere and press the &lt;Delete&gt; key the file appears in the <span class="bbc">trash:///</span> location so it seems to work but perhaps I am misunderstanding.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2022 22:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm)]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34260#p34260</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I installed the liveUSB for Devuan (chimaera)&#160; and then replaced the repos for chimaera with daedalus (testing). I then performed a full-upgrade. Nowhere along the line does Trash function for me on my machine unless I use systemd. </p><p>Interestingly when I use MX it does not have functioning trash (when booted usingsysv-init); identical with Devuan.&#160; However, MX when booted with systemd has normally functioning Trash.&#160; Debian also works just fine in it&#039;s systemd incarnation.</p><p>In all cases, the trash folder remains existent in my .local/share folder. On MX, a boot/ reboot between systemd- sysvinit on the same machine (minutes apart) has the trash folder appear/ disappear. FWIW. I, also, either loose or have the delete/trash maintenance options appear/disappear in accordance with the Trash folder.&#160; (Exists in systemd booted envirnment, not in the non-systemd incarnation.) </p><p>I tried the following file managers with the exact same results:<br />PCmanFM, nemo, nautilus...</p><p>It all makes me happier when using systemd..... <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (manyroads)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2022 20:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34260#p34260</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm)]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34259#p34259</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>^ Lol. Indeed <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>So how did you install ceres then?</p><p>And what do you mean by &quot;I lose Trash on Thunar&quot;, exactly? What behaviour do you expect to see and in what way does the observed behaviour differ?</p><p>You can use this to check what has been installed from that Skype repository:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>aptitude search &#039;?narrow(?installed, ?origin(. stable))&#039;</code></pre></div><p>^ That should just show <em>skypeforlinux</em>. Hopefully. I would just use chromium for Skype, or even the flatpak, but you might be comfortable handing over the keys to your system to the repository maintainers.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2022 19:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34259#p34259</guid>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34258#p34258</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>FWIW... I prefer &quot;loose nut on the keyboard&quot; to PEBKAC...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (manyroads)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2022 19:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34257#p34257</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Here is what I get:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     release a=now
 500 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable/main amd64 Packages
     release o=. stable,a=stable,n=stable,l=. stable,c=main,b=amd64
     origin repo.skype.com
 500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages
     release v=5.0,o=Devuan,a=testing,n=daedalus,l=Devuan,c=main,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
Pinned packages:</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (manyroads)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2022 19:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34257#p34257</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm)]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34255#p34255</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just doing some investigating &#039;cos I&#039;m bored so tried LightDM, i3 &amp; thunar in my VM and trash seems to work just fine in chimaera. I &quot;upgraded&quot; the system to daedalus and then ceres and it works fine there as well.</p><p>Scrot or it didn&#039;t happen:</p><p><a href="https://postimg.cc/gr4xmzHT" rel="nofollow"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/gr4xmzHT/2022-01-29-165314-958x501-scrot.png" alt="2022-01-29-165314-958x501-scrot.png" /></span></a></p><p>So now the question is: how exactly did you install your &quot;daedalus/ceres&quot; system? I used the chimaera netinstall ISO image.</p><p>Use this command to show us exactly which version is installed (which you should have done in the OP btw):</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>apt policy</code></pre></div><p>Looks like this is a PEBKAC issue <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34251#p34251</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The problem is with GVFS. It uses dbus to activate a systemd unit file.</p><p>You could try recompiling the source package with <span class="bbc">--disable-systemd</span>:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>apt source gvfs &amp;&amp; cd &quot;$_&quot;-*</code></pre></div><p>Then edit <span class="bbc">debian/rules</span> and change this section:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>ifneq (,$(filter $(DEB_HOST_ARCH), hurd-i386 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64))
        ADMIN_BACKEND=-Dadmin=false
        SYSTEMD_FLAGS= \
                -Dsystemduserunitdir=no \
                -Dtmpfilesdir=no \
                -Dlogind=false \
                -Dgudev=false \
                -Dudisks2=false \
                -Dcdda=false \
                -Dgphoto2=false \
                -Dmtp=false</code></pre></div><p>To this:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>ifneq (,$(filter $(DEB_HOST_ARCH), hurd-i386 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64))
        ADMIN_BACKEND=-Dadmin=false
        SYSTEMD_FLAGS= \
                -Ddisable-systemd</code></pre></div><p>Then run</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># apt install devscripts
# mk-build-deps --install --remove
$ rm gvfs-build-deps*
$ dch --bpo # open debian/changelog in an editor, save the file to exit
$ debuild -us -uc
# apt install ../gvfs*.deb
# apt purge --autoremove gvfs-build-deps devscripts</code></pre></div><p>Careful with that <span class="bbc">--autoremove</span> option though, it might take out your desktop if you&#039;ve uninstalled any critical metapackages. Pay close attention to the output. Or leave devscripts installed if you want to keep it for any future rebuilds or package patching.</p><p>Anyway, if that gets the Trash working edit <span class="bbc">debian/changelog</span> to change</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>gvfs (1.46.2-1~bpo11+1) bullseye-backports; urgency=medium</code></pre></div><p>to</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>gvfs (1.46.2-1.1) bullseye-backports; urgency=medium</code></pre></div><p>Then rebuild the packages again and install them. You&#039;ll have to repeat this whenever the GVFS packages are updated.</p><p>If it doesn&#039;t work then reinstall the stock packages:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># apt update
# apt full-upgrade</code></pre></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2022 11:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34245#p34245</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Nope the error is reproducible in PCmanFM and nemo....</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (manyroads)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34244#p34244</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think it might be a thunar bug (when running SysV).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (manyroads)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34243#p34243</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>When I run it (after booting with your above commands) I get</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>mark@devuan:~$ /usr/libexec/gvfsd
Failed to acquire daemon name, perhaps the VFS daemon is already running?</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (manyroads)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34242#p34242</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>How about running <span class="bbc">/usr/libexec/gvfsd</span> from a terminal? Does that do anything?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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