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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It would be a shame to break tradition.<br />I tampered around a little bit in the past <br />However, I also cannot find any way to make a dark theme with clearlooks. If some one knows what Clearlooks is missing, would be nice in the future. (mostly the scroll bars and other side elements I can&#039;t seem to figure how to manipulate)</p><p>But yes. building another color pallet tough choice on the colour. I&#039;d have no issues manipulating the files or the Desktop / grub image colours. Most tedious part would be the widgets. But most of the ground work is already done. </p><p>Edit: <br />I&#039;ve got two colour variations in the works. I have a couple discrepancies I&#039;ll have to track down. Definitely not ready. One theme the widgets (Check boxes and the like are still Cinnabar.) The other I have some gtk3 text that is slightly out. Sigh, I flipped too many switches now I have to figure out where I went wrong. I am tweaking the openbox themes yet. I&#039;m kinda liking what this is looking like. I&#039;ve just icons and wallpapers to work on. I did the xfwm4 title bars no problem.</p><p>@golinux Where should I dump the themes I am working on? Once they get close to &#039;complete&#039; I would like to get some feed back, maybe some help. I am fairly certain the more I look at it the more I will tweak it that was a good suggestion in the guide.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2022 05:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@czeekaj - There has been a customized Clearlooks-Phenix-* theme for each Devuan release. Take a look here for some <span class="bbu"><a href="https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics/theming-devuan.md" rel="nofollow">theming tips</a></span>.&#160; Clearlook-Phenix is down the page a bit. Might give you some ideas.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2022 01:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I know nothing of GTK3 theming. All I know so far is modifying basic hex values. <br />I&#039;ll look into it I see some documentation is a place to start. One thing I miss on the Clear looks theme is the Workspace squares changing color when hovered over. I&#039;ll see if I can re-introduce that.<br />It&#039;d also be an excuse to make my GTK2 and Gtk3 colour palates match perfectly. Currently if you look close there are discrepancies on the theme I am using. <br />If I have time I&#039;d throw in a openbox pallet with it. No promises, but I&#039;d love to try and contribute something helpful.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2022 01:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I feel ashamed because I always wanted to help but never had time to do, starting from the logo.</p><p>I am professional designer with plenty of experience also with open-source tools, I am willing to help but I can&#039;t focus on this task: I forgot the meaning of free-time; but I can surely mentoring and help with tips and recommendation who want working on this even if he/she feels doesn&#039;t have enough experience or skills in the design field.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Danielsan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 20:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@Altoid . . . Thing is . . . the task requires a color palette and a descriptive image doesn&#039;t provide that. Thanks for the input.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 16:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... as a caution to never make assumptions ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>As a human, guilty as charged.<br />But (just for fun) allow me to argue in my defense.&#160; 8^)&#160; </p><p>As I reflected on your reply, I immediately recalled having both seen your post with the chimaera &#039;fish&#039; photo (strangest I have ever seen, no fin tail) and its being the inspiration to Devuan&#039;s current theme, which I hope we keep for the long run.</p><p>But here&#039;s the thing®: the word chimarea has been in my head for ~ 50 years or more, <em>always</em> associated to a mythical/impossible beast of some sort.<br />A great many variations have been put forth, most of them take the idea of impossible to really great lengths. </p><p>A more reasonable lion headed, winged dragon with horns and two front legs comes to mind. <br />Nice ...<br />But never actually seen one, not even in photos.</p><p>Which is not the case with the chimaera &#039;fish&#039; which I assume (again) is real for there are videos/photos etc. which would support its existence.</p><p>In my mind (ymmv) if it is <em>real</em> it cannot be a chimaera, hence my (all too human) assumption.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Nice video at the bottom . . .</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Quite so. 8^D</p><p>Thanks for the heads up.<br />Have a good week-end.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 13:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>. . . Then each release would have a distinct &#039;seal&#039; so to speak, all seals designed according to a certain defined style.&#160; eg: Beowulf the head of the mythical hero, chimaera the head of the mythical beast, an so on.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Just wanted to clarify one thing here as a caution to never make assumptions (which humans all too often do). The chimaera that inspired the &quot;deepsea&quot; theme should have been a clue that it wasn&#039;t the chimaera described above.&#160; It was the <span class="bbu"><a href="https://www.mbari.org/the-pointy-nosed-blue-chimaera-really-gets-around/" rel="nofollow">pointy-nosed blue chimaera Hydrolagus trolli</a></span>.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&#160; Nice video at the bottom . . .</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... a labor of love for Devuan to be beautiful ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>There can be no doubt about that.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Isn&#039;t all art ultimately &quot;unnecessary&quot;.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No, I don&#039;t think so.</p><p>I for one find it to be an essential part of human existence/experience.<br />Now and 64K years ago.<br />From the Maltravieso cave in Spain to Rembrandt&#039;s Night Watch, any Turner, Modigliani, Klimt or Schiele, just to name a few.&#160; </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>All I know is that my efforts have been appreciated ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Please do count me among them.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... release name could be added to the wallpaper ...<br />... continuing with Chimaera theming going forward.<br />Just text would be sufficient ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Indeed.<br />I fully agree with that.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Your input is appreciated.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Thank you for that.<br />Hopefully, I may eventually be able to contribute more.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 20:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>. . . with one caveat. An associated color identity for each release is helpful.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes ...</p><p>But as helpful as it may be, (in <em>my</em> opinion, ymmv) I think the amount of work involved is a luxury we cannot afford.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I took on that burden because I am an extremely visual person.&#160; And yes it is (or was) a labor of love for Devuan to be beautiful (IMO) as well as functional.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>There&#039;s more than enough for Devuan to do as things stand to just continue existing.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>This is also true.&#160; Yet in all the bike-shedding that is currently going on, except for aitor, not one comment has come from a Devuan contributor (afaik).</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>ie: golinux&#039;s brave efforts are pointed at something that is excessively burdensome, complex and (again, imo) unnecessary.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Isn&#039;t all art ultimately &quot;unnecessary&quot;.&#160; Yet, it has a purpose.&#160; <span class="bbu"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiWIf7y_RQ8&amp;t=340s" rel="nofollow">Jaromil understands this</a></span>.&#160; All I know is that my efforts have been appreciated by many Devuan users.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Devuan could, for example, decide on a trademark/specific colour on which we could all vote. (cringes at the prospect ...)</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Heaven help us all . . .</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Then each release would have a distinct &#039;seal&#039; so to speak, all seals designed according to a certain defined style.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, the release name could be added to the wallpaper and elsewhere.&#160; We have already been mulling over just continuing with Chimaera theming going forward.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>eg: Beowulf the head of the mythical hero, chimaera the head of the mythical beast, an so on.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Just text would be sufficient or we will be in perpetual bike-shedding . . .</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>There would then be only <em>one</em> thing to change: the &#039;seal&#039; for each release, like the back side of commemorative coins, within certain pre-established design parameters.</p><p>Now, if <em>that</em> causes any confusion, you could just add a whole number after/above/below it and use <span class="bbc">uname -a</span> to get the details.</p><p>Just an idea.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Your input is appreciated.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 19:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>. . . with one caveat. An associated color identity for each release is helpful.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes ...</p><p>But as helpful as it may be, (in <em>my</em> opinion, ymmv) I think the amount of work involved is a luxury we cannot afford.<br />There&#039;s more than enough for Devuan to do as things stand to just continue existing.</p><p>ie: golinux&#039;s brave efforts are pointed at something that is excessively burdensome, complex and (again, imo) unnecessary.</p><p>Devuan could, for example, decide on a trademark/specific colour on which we could all vote. (cringes at the prospect ...) <br />Then each release would have a distict &#039;seal&#039; so to speak, all seals designed according to a certain defined style.</p><p>eg: Beowulf the head of the mythical hero, chimaera the head of the mythical beast, an so on.</p><p>There would then be only <em>one</em> thing to change: the &#039;seal&#039; for each release, like the back side of conmemorative coins, within certain pre-established design parameters.</p><p>Now, if <em>that</em> causes any confusion, you could just add a whole number after/above/below it and use <span class="bbc">uname -a</span> to get the details.</p><p>Just an idea.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Camtaf wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Why not just stick to what we have(?).</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Exactly . . . with one caveat. An associated color identity for each release is helpful.&#160; Recycling them as the official release default is likely to cause confusion.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Camtaf wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Why do we need to keep on changing it(?).</p></div></blockquote></div><p>As to the layout . . . no need to change it at all.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Camtaf wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>You could always include the release name in small letters at the bottom right or left of the &#039;official&#039; background.<br />(If you wanted it identifying as a new release).</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That is one possibility but not really the best solution. In any case . . . I understand all the themes are working in Daedalus.&#160; If at some point that changes or if Xfce becomes unworkable, it will be back to square one.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Why not just stick to what we have(?).</p><p>Why do we need to keep on changing it(?).</p><p>You could always include the release name in small letters at the bottom right or left of the &#039;official&#039; background.<br />(If you wanted it identifying as a new release).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>apologies for going off topic golinux. You can close this thread if you like, i was just asking some simple questions and being curious.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 08:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>manyroads wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I&#039;m not certain where devuan wants to be. If it were me, and it isn&#039;t, I&#039;d suggest that devuan operate with offering a single branded DE that is minimalist in nature. Because Devuan is more akin to Debian than anything else that could be xfce.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Isn&#039;t that what we&#039;ve been doing for the last 7 years.&#160; All Devuan artwork for Jessie, ASCII, Beowulf and Chimeaera is <span class="bbu"><a href="https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics" rel="nofollow">here</a></span>.&#160; That includes theming for the Xfce desktop.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 03:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>PrimeSuspect wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>If there&#039;s any objective to increase the user base for Devuan then IMO more wallpaper choices should be a priority.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Devuan&#039;s objective is to provide Debian without systemd.&#160; We are not interested in marketing. Our original intention was to provide a <span class="bbu"><a href="https://www.devuan.org/os/announce/" rel="nofollow">minimal system</a></span>!&#160; If fsmithred hadn&#039;t stepped up to do the live isos and I hadn&#039;t gone down the rabbit hole with Hellekin and others to put together the theming and logo etc., there would only have been default desktop theming.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 03:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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