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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic! Always great to see a solution. All the best!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2021 20:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nobodyuknow wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... the final report.<br />--- snip ---<br />... a hardware problem all along.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Hmmm ....</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... meaningless marketing term with no legal basis. <span class="bbc">s/refurbished/cleaned/g</span>.</p></div></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>nobodyuknow wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>It was a hardware problem <span class="bbs">all along</span> due to ridiculously poor/negligent workmanship.&#160; &#160;&lt;--- reads accurately now</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Been there <em>and</em> done that.<br />Quite a few times actually.</p><p>Assuming that because it was a [Sun/HP/IBM/Dell/Sony/whatever] unit, it <span class="bbu">could not</span> be what I suspected from the start.<br />25+ years later, I know better.</p><p>Glad you got it worked out.&#160; 8^D</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2021 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Here is the final report.</p><p>I installed Crucial Ballistix memory (it has a thin aluminum strip covering the chips to serve as a heatsink). Maybe it&#039;ll keep those temps lower. It is a matched set of 8 GB each, so performance can only improve.</p><p>I drilled a few holes in the bottom case under the NVMe SSD. It can only improve the airflow, especially considering that it&#039;s located at the far corner of the laptop with no otherwise ventilation.</p><p>But the biggest bang for the buck was with the processor. My old HP laptop has a copper heatsink and bar, but this new one has a thin aluminum one. Damn those beancounters! When I removed the heatsink, I found a glob of thermal paste. It wasn&#039;t hard or crusty, just applied far too thick. When I applied a thin coating of Noctua thermal paste, the temps dropped around 25 degrees!</p><p>It was a hardware problem all along.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2021 17:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@GlennW</p><p>Absolutely. The processor temps are much higher than they should be. Looking at the HP manual, the same heatsink bar is used for both processor and GPU, so it&#039;s a two-fer.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 22:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi, if you are prepared to take it apart, be sure to check the heatsink compound (for any of the heatsinks) and re-apply. It maybe the one thing they did not do when refurbing.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (GlennW)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 22:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nobodyuknow wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>advertised it as refurbished, whatever that means</p></div></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s a meaningless marketing term with no legal basis. <span class="bbc">s/refurbished/cleaned/g</span>.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@Head_on_a_Stick</p><p>Yeah, this is a funny laptop. I bought it from Newegg, which advertised it as refurbished, whatever that means. I really think it is gray-market from Asia. It has a truly matte screen, which for me is a hard requirement, as well as an NVMe SSD and AMD Ryzen 5 processor. The vents are pretty much a joke, really tiny holes that could not possible transfer much air. I&#039;m going to drill-out the outer ring of vent holes to improve the airflow. When I do that, I&#039;ll make sure the fan is not obstructed.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 18:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Try taking a vacuum cleaner attachment to the vents to try and clear out any dust.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nobodyuknow wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>a relatively new laptop</p></div></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>nobodyuknow wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>the CD-DVD drive</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Those two statements appear to be contradictory <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nobodyuknow wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I&#039;m still pondering drilling a few holes in the case</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Mentalist <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>andyprough wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>That&#039;s been my experience with clam. Not sure if it&#039;s even useful on a desktop installation - isn&#039;t it just checking windows virus definitions? It seems like it&#039;s mainly for things like email servers.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>^ This.</p><p>There is plenty of malware floating about that will infect a Linux system directly but ClamAV won&#039;t catch any of it.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 09:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I realized that opening the CD-DVD drive would open a large window on the side of the laptop and maybe allow greater airflow. I have it opened now and the temperature on the NVMe SSD never climbs above 33 c. So the high temeratures are a result of poor engineering on the part of HP. I&#039;m still pondering drilling a few holes in the case, but I&#039;ll think about that to make sure I don&#039;t do anything stupid.</p><p>Thanks to everyone for their assistance.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 21:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nobodyuknow wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>@GlennW</p><p>I updated the BIOS to the most recent one as soon as I acquired the laptop. I had to do it immediately because I was planning on replacing the low-capacity &quot;value&quot; SSD it arrived with (it had Windows installed and HP&#039;s BIOS update only works with Windows). And I have never used torrents, but it&#039;s good to know that rebooting after using them is recommended practice.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Correction...<br />I said the wrong thing about my fans, it&#039;s not that they switch off, it&#039;s that they switch to full ON, and the noise alerts me, then I feel the excessive heat with my hand. I have 2 fans on the Noctua cpu heatsink, and a psw internal fan, and 4 case fans, when they all switch to full speed it&#039;s very obvious/noticable.<br />Regards, Glenn</p><p>Forgot to mention the gpu fan, which hardly ever comes on.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 01:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nobodyuknow wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Well, that&#039;s curious. On a lark, I uninstalled Britty because I&#039;m not blind, uninstalled Clamav and Clamtk because antivirus often uses lots of processor resources, and Gnome Software which I didn&#039;t remember installing (but I&#039;m sure I did). The fan is now quiet. It appears that Clam was the problem all along, which is highly ironic.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s been my experience with clam. Not sure if it&#039;s even useful on a desktop installation - isn&#039;t it just checking windows virus definitions? It seems like it&#039;s mainly for things like email servers.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 01:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#039;s curious. On a lark, I uninstalled Britty because I&#039;m not blind, uninstalled Clamav and Clamtk because antivirus often uses lots of processor resources, and Gnome Software which I didn&#039;t remember installing (but I&#039;m sure I did). The fan is now quiet. It appears that Clam was the problem all along, which is highly ironic.</p><p>UPDATE: I spoke way too soon. When I wrote the above, no browser was running. Now that I started using browsers again, the fan is once again running. Time to take the back cover off.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@GlennW</p><p>I updated the BIOS to the most recent one as soon as I acquired the laptop. I had to do it immediately because I was planning on replacing the low-capacity &quot;value&quot; SSD it arrived with (it had Windows installed and HP&#039;s BIOS update only works with Windows). And I have never used torrents, but it&#039;s good to know that rebooting after using them is recommended practice.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (nobodyuknow)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the offer, andyprough. I&#039;ve been looking at processor percentages listed by top and rarely do any of them exceed 3%, though about once each minute Cinnamon approaches 10%, something I find very curious.</p><p>On the temperature front, the NVMe SSD has reached 84 c as per Psensor, which is disappointing given that it&#039;s a Samsung Pro with a piece of aluminum Samsung laughingly calls a heatsink. I am beginning to think airflow is an issue, something I will investigate when I open the back. Maybe it&#039;s time to drill a few holes in the back. ;-)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>One thought, Bios update on new equipment. </p><p>And I think it&#039;s true what &quot;andyprough&quot; says about torrents... </p><p>I usually have to reboot after visiting torrent sites to stop my PC temps from running away when the fans turn off.</p><p>But not just downloading Torrents like Devuan iso&#039;s.</p><p>For your sake, I hope it&#039;s just a bios update. :-) all the best.</p><p>p.s.&#160; I use Lynis, chkrootkit and rkhunter and clamav daily and they don&#039;t show anything in particular. Lynis helps with hardening tips, but I have found there is a limit to how &quot;hard&quot; and still being able to use my computer. Cheers!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (GlennW)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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