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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32344#p32344</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Blender works really well in Linux if you use Nvidia graphics card.&#160; </p><p>I don&#039;t have any good experiences with AMD graphics card. To build a graphics workstation two years ago, I bought two brand new AMD graphics card. After spending a full week of troubleshooting instability issue of the AMD graphics card, I had to return them to the seller.&#160; I bought two used Nvidia graphics card on eBay for the graphics workstation. </p><p>Rendering 3D models requires decent graphics card for GPU computing. </p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://butterflyofdream.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/oshkosh-matv1.jpg" alt="oshkosh-matv1.jpg" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2021 02:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32023#p32023</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MiyoLinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Morning check of this forum and EVERY new post is off topic.&#160; Not quite sure what that says about Devuan . . .&#160; [snip]</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Okay...</p><p>You have forced me into this; therefore, I will give my input (not that my input matters).</p><p>Here it is...</p><p>--&gt;&#160; LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! </p><p>Best topic I&#039;ve seen in a while! <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>@Miyo . . . your input always matters to me.&#160; You dropping into our little world always makes me smile.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2021 02:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32022#p32022</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Morning check of this forum and EVERY new post is off topic.&#160; Not quite sure what that says about Devuan . . .&#160; </p><p>Troll appreciation thread</p><p>Fight for the Plasma Desktop Cube</p><p>Palemoon drama, has gotten bad</p><p>Music</p><p>Show your desktop (rebooted)</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Okay...</p><p>You have forced me into this; therefore, I will give my input (not that my input matters).</p><p>Here it is...</p><p>--&gt;&#160; LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! </p><p>Best topic I&#039;ve seen in a while! <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>As to Blender. I spent a lot of time learning how to use it on OpenBSD in order to use its video editing capabilities. After finally &quot;getting it&quot;, OpenBSD added Shotcut to their repos (which is my preferred video editor). <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/neutral.png" width="15" height="15" alt="neutral" />&#160; &#160;<img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&#160; &#160;<img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2021 02:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32021#p32021</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@zapper Blender&#039;s interface, viewport and pretty much all that is displayed on a screen is OpenGL based. That works fine on mesa drivers! Most functions require CPU compute to perform operation on data, and the GPU is used in couple places to accelerate that compute side - like rendering final image/frame. OpenCL drivers are needed to enable this on AMD hardware. Do not mistake display rendering in a form of pushing frames to the display render buffer on a GPU to be passed on screen with rendering of the final product like image or animation that you export and save on a disc.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (uther)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2021 20:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32020#p32020</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>blender doesn&#039;t work with open source drivers</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Blender works fine with open source drivers but it can only use CPU rendering. The proprietary drivers are needed for rendering on the GPU. It&#039;s the only thing the open source drivers can&#039;t do.</p><p>[/offtopic]</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2021 18:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32017#p32017</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>uther wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>GPU rendering in Blender require OpenCL drivers if you have AMD GPU, otherwise Blender won&#039;t see your card at all.<br />However with recent Cycles rewrite AMD will have completly different backend (HIP) and OpenCL was dropped. We (Blender users) still don&#039;t know what drivers we will need or what hardware will be supported, as HIP implementation isn&#039;t finished.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>So blender doesn&#039;t work with open source drivers... well okay. </p><p>That&#039;s a shame, but meh, it is what it is eh, at least for now.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32011#p32011</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>GPU rendering in Blender require OpenCL drivers if you have AMD GPU, otherwise Blender won&#039;t see your card at all.<br />However with recent Cycles rewrite AMD will have completly different backend (HIP) and OpenCL was dropped. We (Blender users) still don&#039;t know what drivers we will need or what hardware will be supported, as HIP implementation isn&#039;t finished.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2021 09:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32008#p32008</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>uther wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Open drivers don&#039;t have OpenCL support. And I need that.<br />Also I have installed only OpenCL parts of AMDGPU-PRO. Display is handled by mesa, and indeed it&#039;s great.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You have perked my curiosity, what do you need opencl for and/or the proprietary blob for? I am curious.</p><p>If you don&#039;t want or feel like telling me though, feel free to tell me.</p><p>It just sounds odd to me, given that those blobs are like mystery software. </p><p><img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2021 02:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32006#p32006</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Open drivers don&#039;t have OpenCL support. And I need that.<br />Also I have installed only OpenCL parts of AMDGPU-PRO. Display is handled by mesa, and indeed it&#039;s great.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 23:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32005#p32005</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>uther wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>AMDGPU-PRO drivers</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Don&#039;t use those, the open source amdgpu driver outperforms it for almost all tasks.</p><p>EDIT: I&#039;ve got a PRO video chip and I don&#039;t use the PRO drivers.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 23:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32003#p32003</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Ive been using chimaera all year, stable for me too.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Same here. In fact it is so stable that after couple tests I made a bold move and switched main production machine to daedalus.<br />So far the only thing that borked itself were old AMDGPU-PRO drivers (20.40) which I don&#039;t need that bad as of now. Still waiting for 5.14 kernel with RT patch, so I can try to install newer versions.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 23:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31977#p31977</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Not quite sure what that says about Devuan . . .</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Indeed ...</p><p>I&#039;d add that there are 10 pages of <em>unanswered</em> posts to which no one had anything to say.<br />The last two pages being from <em>this</em> year.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 12:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31976#p31976</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Camtaf wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Well, Chimaera seems to be pretty stable, so I&#039;m guessing, nobody has much to say really.... <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Ive been using chimaera all year, stable for me too.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 10:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31975#p31975</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I can&#039;t said anything bad about testing/daedalus either.</p><p>Head_on_a_Stick has a point here.</p><p>Off-topic is a lovely place to stick up.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Nili)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 10:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31973#p31973</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, Chimaera seems to be pretty stable, so I&#039;m guessing, nobody has much to say really.... <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 09:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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