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			<title><![CDATA[Re: chimaera ping drops packets with static IP, but not with DHCP]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>entropyagent wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I checked my arping&#039;s friendly man page again (from which the above code snippet was taken),&#160; it definitely mentions the&#160; -d parm.&#160; The command accepts the -d without complaint. Of course, I have no idea if it does anything with it.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Oops, sorry, I was looking at the <a href="https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/iputils-arping/arping.8.en.html" rel="nofollow">irputils-arping man page</a>. Silly mistake.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 23:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: chimaera ping drops packets with static IP, but not with DHCP]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>OK, thanks for the tips.</p><p>I checked my arping&#039;s friendly man page again (from which the above code snippet was taken),&#160; it definitely mentions the&#160; -d parm.&#160; The command accepts the -d without complaint. Of course, I have no idea if it does anything with it.&#160; I hope I have not messed up my sources.list.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>cat /etc/issue;sudo apt show arping
Devuan GNU/Linux 4 \n \l

Package: arping
Version: 2.21-2
Priority: optional
Section: net
Maintainer: Salvatore Bonaccorso &lt;carnil@debian.org&gt;
Installed-Size: 78.8 kB
Depends: libc6 (&gt;= 2.25), libnet1 (&gt;= 1.1.2.1), libpcap0.8 (&gt;= 1.5.1)
Conflicts: iputils-arping
Homepage: http://www.habets.pp.se/synscan/programs.php?prog=arping
Tag: admin::monitoring, implemented-in::c, interface::commandline,
 network::scanner, protocol::ip, role::program, scope::utility
Download-Size: 31.6 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages
Description: sends IP and/or ARP pings (to the MAC address)
 The arping utility sends ARP and/or ICMP requests to the specified host
 and displays the replies. The host may be specified by its hostname,
 its IP address, or its MAC address.</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (entropyagent)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 23:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: chimaera ping drops packets with static IP, but not with DHCP]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31998#p31998</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>entropyagent wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Would I have to enter these commands on every machine in the network, including the ones I have forgotten about, and the ones without shells?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes. You don&#039;t even need a TTY to run a remote command via <span class="bbc">ssh</span>.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>entropyagent wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I admit, it would be effective if I remembered them all, but somewhat inconvenient.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Check the router interface instead then, that should list all attached devices and their addresses.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>entropyagent wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>How about &quot;arping -c 10 -d &lt;ipaddress&gt;&quot;&#160; ?&#160; I just read about it now and the man says:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>       -d     Find duplicate replies. Exit with 1 if there  are  answers  from
              two different MAC addresses.</code></pre></div><p>That looks very promising - is it solid and reliable?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No idea, I&#039;ve never used that tool. Double-check your man page though because the chimaera version of that command doesn&#039;t have a <span class="bbc">-d</span> option.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 17:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: chimaera ping drops packets with static IP, but not with DHCP]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31997#p31997</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>ip a
ip r</code></pre></div></div></blockquote></div><p>Would I have to enter these commands on every machine in the network, including the ones I have forgotten about, and the ones without shells? <br />I admit, it would be effective if I remembered them all, but somewhat inconvenient.</p><p>How about &quot;arping -c 10 -d &lt;ipaddress&gt;&quot;&#160; ?&#160; I just read about it now and the man says:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>       -d     Find duplicate replies. Exit with 1 if there  are  answers  from
              two different MAC addresses.</code></pre></div><p>That looks very promising - is it solid and reliable? </p><p>How about sudo nmap -sn&#160; &lt;network&gt;&#160; ?</p><p>Maybe I will test these if I need to continue my investigating. I could put the phone back, and see if they sniff it out.</p><p>Of course, due to PEBKAC I only thought of dupips when I noticed the (forgotten by me) persistent address on my phone. I mean, what kind of sick, twisted mind gives a phone a static IP?</p><p>Thanks for the r8168 tip, I hope I will not have to investigate it further, but it&#039;s &quot;good to know&quot;</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 17:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31981#p31981</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>entropyagent wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Is there a simple network diagnostic tool which can easily sniff out ip address duplication?</p></div></blockquote></div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>ip a
ip r</code></pre></div><p>FWIW that R8169 driver is a complete POS so I would blame that first. See also <a href="https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&amp;q=r8168-dkms&amp;x=submit" rel="nofollow">https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … s&amp;x=submit</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 14:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>So...might have found something. My cellphone (which has Kodi installed and sometimes does media server/player duties) had a static IP which is the same as the the static IP I chose for my PC !</p><p>The cellphone has been moved to a new address. Now, on my PC, I am trying to use static that has been set up with NetworkManager. Results are promising, but it&#039;s an intermittent error, so it&#039;s quite difficult to confirm its absence. (Maybe the phone sleeps a lot, and causes fewer problems while asleep? A bit like me, really)</p><p>Last month, during the course of my investigation of this intermittent issue, I moved my network from a non-RFC1918-approved network prefix to an RFC1918-approved one. At the same time, I moved my main PC from a static ip that I have used for over a year, to one which conflicted with the phone. The has now been rectified, but I still have no explanation for the same issue which existed with the old address, with which there was no conflict.&#160; Maybe I can blame NetworkManager for fighting with the /etc/network/interfaces configuration?</p><p>I this works out, I will have to apologise to a lot of old freebie&amp;junkshop cables and hubs/routers.</p><p>Is there a simple network diagnostic tool which can easily sniff out ip address duplication? Ping seems to offer a hint, but it&#039;s not very good at explaining the problem.</p><p>I realise I did not include the actual &quot;error&quot; rmessage, for when I forget about this in a few months time:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>.......ping statistics ---
100 packets transmitted, 67 received, 33% packet loss, time 160343ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 170.934/172.424/180.124/1.268 ms</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (entropyagent)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 13:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31953#p31953</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps of interest: If I remove eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces, give it to NetworkManager to manage via DHCP, and assign a static IP by reserving it in the router - that *seems* to work fine.&#160; That&#039;s a rather embarrassing admission of failure, though. And easily forgotten as I cycle through my collection of junkshop routers as old age, lightning strikes and power surges cause them to shuffle off this mortal coil. And inconvenient if I have to reconfigure&#160; BOINC, ssh, hosts.allow and shares. </p><p>I hope it won&#039;t come to that?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (entropyagent)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 22:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Greetings, Dev-Ones</p><p>I installed Chimaera 64 bit with runit and SLiM, and added a static IP address for eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces. SliM was later swapped out in favour of lightdm. Eth0 seems to be a &quot;Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411&quot;&#160; device with driver &quot;r8169&quot;</p><p>My /etc/apt/sources.list starts with </p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># deb cdrom:[Devuan GNU/Linux 4.0 chimaera amd64 - desktop 20210906]/ chimaera contrib main non-free</code></pre></div><p>so I assume that&#039;s the vintage of the beta that was installed.</p><p>I noticed occasional errors while webbrowsing &quot;Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site....We can’t connect to the server&quot; etc</p><p>I tried a few pings, and noticed the occasional dropped packet. But pings are like salted snacks, you can&#039;t have just one.</p><p>To remove the uncertainty associated with pinging unreliable, fly-by-night organisations on the Web (e.g. Facebook) I ping my ADSL router/gateway/DHCP server device by IP number.</p><p>Eventually, I noticed that if I use DHCP to assign an address, the percentage of dropped packets is usually 0, never over 1. However, with a static <br />IP assigned in /etc/network/interfaces, the dropped packets percentage is very often between 5 and 50.</p><p>I then removed the static eth0 address from /etc/network/interfaces, and tried to assign the static IP using NetworkManager. The dropping of packets continued.</p><p>The issue seems to be that something about static IP (OK, my setup of static IP) makes networking unreliable (not broken, just 5-50% unreliable). This seems consistent whether eth0 is managed by NetworkManager or /etc/network/interfaces</p><p>Has anyone else noticed anything like this?&#160; In particular...has anyone solved this with one simple trick? It will have to be simple.</p><p>Maybe someone can point me to a foolproof, painstakingly detailed and yet laughably simple guide for assigning static IP via NetworkManager?<br />Maybe I&#039;m just holding it wrong.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (entropyagent)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 22:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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