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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Palemoon drama, has gotten bad,]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Hevidevi, if it doesn&#039;t work, you can PM me, also, if you want FDE with or without /boot encrypted, ask me that in a PM.</p><p>Peace!</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Thanks.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2021 12:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Palemoon drama, has gotten bad,]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hevidevi, if it doesn&#039;t work, you can PM me, also, if you want FDE with or without /boot encrypted, ask me that in a PM.</p><p>Peace!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>dhcpcd-ui you mean?</p><p>Looks very much dbus free. </p><p>I tried installing hyperbola a few days ago but was stopped due to gpg / pacman key not found by the maintainer.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, you can bypass that actually, set SigLevel to never.</p><p>Its no big deal.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Did that, still failed. Im pretty sure the maintainers key is kaput. By that i mean that the key cannot be found on any key servers. When was the last time you had to refresh pacman keys?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>They are working on 0.4 tirelessly lately, let me think for a second... I believe you need to&#160; comment the other SigLevel, as well.. then it will allow you to update.</p><p>comment this:</p><p>#SigLevel&#160; &#160; = Required DatabaseOptional<br />And have this non commented like so...<br />SigLevel = Never</p><p>If either is incorrect/missing make the changes.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Palemoon drama, has gotten bad,]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>dhcpcd-gtk is one of them</p><p>dhcpcd + wpa_supplicant both of which&#160; seem to work without dbus in Hyperbola.</p><p>and yes, wifi with wpa2 and 2.4ghz as well as 5ghz works fine.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>dhcpcd-ui you mean?</p><p>Looks very much dbus free. </p><p>I tried installing hyperbola a few days ago but was stopped due to gpg / pacman key not found by the maintainer.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, you can bypass that actually, set SigLevel to never.</p><p>Its no big deal.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Did that, still failed. Im pretty sure the maintainers key is kaput. By that i mean that the key cannot be found on any key servers. When was the last time you had to refresh pacman keys?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (hevidevi)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Palemoon drama, has gotten bad,]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>zapper can i ask what programs you use for network on hyperbola?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>dhcpcd-gtk is one of them</p><p>dhcpcd + wpa_supplicant both of which&#160; seem to work without dbus in Hyperbola.</p><p>and yes, wifi with wpa2 and 2.4ghz as well as 5ghz works fine.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>dhcpcd-ui you mean?</p><p>Looks very much dbus free. </p><p>I tried installing hyperbola a few days ago but was stopped due to gpg / pacman key not found by the maintainer.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, you can bypass that actually, set SigLevel to never.</p><p>Its no big deal.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Palemoon drama, has gotten bad,]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>zapper can i ask what programs you use for network on hyperbola?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>dhcpcd-gtk is one of them</p><p>dhcpcd + wpa_supplicant both of which&#160; seem to work without dbus in Hyperbola.</p><p>and yes, wifi with wpa2 and 2.4ghz as well as 5ghz works fine.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>dhcpcd-ui you mean?</p><p>Looks very much dbus free. </p><p>I tried installing hyperbola a few days ago but was stopped due to gpg / pacman key not found by the maintainer.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (hevidevi)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 14:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sgage wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Saying that, i dont care these days, nothing i do on a computer warrants spec-ops type privacy, im actually looking to quit computing altogether. I think it has run its course and is a doomed endeavor and blight on human interactivity.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Ha! I&#039;ve been coming around to this view myself.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The web of deceit.... The dragnet.</p><p>Really look at the word an meanings of computing,networking etc.</p><p>web (spiders web) net (fishing net).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 14:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>zapper can i ask what programs you use for network on hyperbola?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>dhcpcd-gtk is one of them</p><p>dhcpcd + wpa_supplicant both of which&#160; seem to work without dbus in Hyperbola.</p><p>and yes, wifi with wpa2 and 2.4ghz as well as 5ghz works fine.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 14:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>zapper can i ask what programs you use for network on hyperbola?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (hevidevi)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 14:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Just use firefox-esr with a decent user.js to filter out all the crapware.</p><p>if you opt for no dbus configuration, dbus is not activated as andyprough mentions. The libs still need to be available but dbus is not activated so is not used in the usual way by init thus negating any security vuln in my opinion. If you know a thing or two about openbsd you will know that messagebus needs to be activated for dbus to work and firefox will run as long as the libs are satisfied.</p><p>Saying that, i dont care these days, nothing i do on a computer warrants spec-ops type privacy, im actually looking to quit computing altogether. I think it has run its course and is a doomed endeavor and blight on human interactivity.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Perhaps, but dbus will be removed from Hyperbola, at some point, thus, I see no purpose in such things.</p><p>As for computing, I don&#039;t think its completely doomed yet, unless you want newer technology, that is x86 based or arm64 based. </p><p>Actually, I will just say, anything with a backdoor like intel me or in general is a problem.&#160; Especially if it connects to the internet with that backdoor.&#160; If the backdoor is non-remote, meaning it doesn&#039;t do anything over the network, its not a huge issue as far as I am concerned.</p><p>That being said, MNT Reform gives me some hope.&#160; I await the pocket version, but yeah, 80% of hardware at least is crap due to backdoors that operate remotely and cannot be removed... </p><p>I had to add that part cause otherwise its more like 95% lol.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 14:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Palemoon drama, has gotten bad,]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31939#p31939</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hevidevi wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Saying that, i dont care these days, nothing i do on a computer warrants spec-ops type privacy, im actually looking to quit computing altogether. I think it has run its course and is a doomed endeavor and blight on human interactivity.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Ha! I&#039;ve been coming around to this view myself.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 14:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just use firefox-esr with a decent user.js to filter out all the crapware.</p><p>if you opt for no dbus configuration, dbus is not activated as andyprough mentions. The libs still need to be available but dbus is not activated so is not used in the usual way by init thus negating any security vuln in my opinion. If you know a thing or two about openbsd you will know that messagebus needs to be activated for dbus to work and firefox will run as long as the libs are satisfied.</p><p>Saying that, i dont care these days, nothing i do on a computer warrants spec-ops type privacy, im actually looking to quit computing altogether. I think it has run its course and is a doomed endeavor and blight on human interactivity.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (hevidevi)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 14:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Ron wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>That being said, Hyperbola devs are in a bit of a pickle, because of palemoon devs going balisitic over some users not following their trademarks which resulted in a cascade of people removing their commits from uxp.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>According to the &quot;horse&#039;s mouth,&quot; your cascade of people is only 2. Where are you getting your information?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s fair, to say, but yeah, one of the Hyperbola devs worked on UXP for a bit, but at one point, Tobin wanted nothing to do with him despite the fact that he only was trying to help make UXP better.</p><p>I would like to be wrong, but honestly, I trust Luke more in general, and long story short, they did hide their newest git development... they closed their github page. If you didn&#039;t notice, and the palemoon repo, here:</p><p><a href="https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions" rel="nofollow">https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions</a></p><p>Notice how UXP is no longer there...</p><p> They seem to be developing behind the scenes now, meaning less people can participate.</p><p>Also this is no longer worked on:</p><p><a href="https://repo.palemoon.org/mcp-graveyard/UXP" rel="nofollow">https://repo.palemoon.org/mcp-graveyard/UXP</a> </p><p>at least there anyways...</p><p>Hmm... although this may prove your point:</p><p><a href="https://github.com/RealityRipple/UXP" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/RealityRipple/UXP</a></p><p>Unless Ripple is doing it without moonchild&#039;s permission...</p><p>Meh... </p><p>I am getting mixed messages so far it seems...</p><p>I did support UXP for a while, if you recall on here.&#160; To the point of arguing the same point you did which caused some threads to get locked xD.</p><p>Hmm.... I will have to think about this more...</p><p>Anywho, they still have been a toxic bunch, so I will wait and see what comes forward I guess.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 14:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Palemoon drama, has gotten bad,]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31934#p31934</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>That being said, Hyperbola devs are in a bit of a pickle, because of palemoon devs going balisitic over some users not following their trademarks which resulted in a cascade of people removing their commits from uxp.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>According to the &quot;horse&#039;s mouth,&quot; your cascade of people is only 2. Where are you getting your information?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 12:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>If only, mpv was the solution for all videos online... ;P</p><p>Alas, I like old cartoons, and some sites work with iceweasel-uxp, and not mpv.&#160; </p><p><img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>Epiphany might actually work like iceweasel-uxp in this sense. </p><p>Either way though, we will just have to see...</p><p>It turns out though, there are some dbus issues with epiphany, but one of the devs of Hyperbola thinks it may be fixable aka, it could work without it if he gives it enough time to work on. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>We&#039;ll see eh? </p><p>Maybe this is the palemoon alternative I need...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 11:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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