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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii kernel update borks laptop]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31029#p31029</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I was able to install the latest updated of the version 16 kernel and it works. Interesting note: One of the messages I saw scroll by as it was installing was about <strong>uninstalling</strong> icedtea-netx. Hmm... Since this was a solo install, no other packages being processed, that had to be triggered by the kernel install.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 20:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii kernel update borks laptop]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31022#p31022</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think I will get the full package name using search and just do an install -- if that is an allowed way to install a kernel. Since the core of the OS is different from any other binary, I was not sure if that was an OK way to do it. Hopefully there won&#039;t be any hairy dependency problems...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Micronaut)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 22:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii kernel update borks laptop]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31015#p31015</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>If you download the file without installing you could find the package in /var/cache/apt/archives/</p><p>then you may install it with dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/(package-name)</p><p>I hope this helps</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (GlennW)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 02:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii kernel update borks laptop]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Fatigue got me. I didn&#039;t see any chance of progress so I just gave up. Anyway, for the sake of completion, here is the output. Still nothing useful.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>root@nautilus:~# apt install icedtea-netx-common  --dry-run
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
icedtea-netx-common is already the newest version (1.6.2-3.1+deb9u1).
icedtea-netx-common set to manually installed.
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  linux-image-4.9.0-14-amd64
Use &#039;apt autoremove&#039; to remove it.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.</code></pre></div><p>But... there has been another kernel update since this one that cause the weird problem. For some reason, it was <em>not</em> installed even though the headers were. (That&#039;s how I know about it.) Why? I did <strong>not</strong> use the hold command. I just purged the kernel version that was causing the problem. Could I install it manually? I&#039;m thinking of trying that, and if it still cause the problem, at least I can get the xorg.log that is produced.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Micronaut)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 01:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii kernel update borks laptop]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30608#p30608</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Micronaut wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Does it save X.Org.log past the last boot? All I could find was the current version and the .old from the previous boot, which is after I had purged the problematic kernel. Where would it put any older saves?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Those are the only saved files. Upgrade to the new kernel, reproduce the error then reboot into the working kernel and post the .old file.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Micronaut wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I have no idea where to find the display manager log</p></div></blockquote></div><p>My search engine tells me you should check <span class="bbc">/var/log/lightdm</span> or <span class="bbc">/var/log/slim.log</span>.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2021 09:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii kernel update borks laptop]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30602#p30602</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Micronaut wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>nemo@nautilus:~$ apt list | grep installed | grep openjdk
--- snip ---
openjdk-8-jre/oldstable-security,now 8u292-b10-0+deb9u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
openjdk-8-jre-headless/oldstable-security,now 8u292-b10-0+deb9u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]</code></pre></div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>nemo@nautilus:~$ apt list | grep installed | grep icedtea
--- snip ---
icedtea-8-plugin/now 1.6.2-3.1 amd64 [installed,local]
icedtea-netx-common/oldstable,now 1.6.2-3.1+deb9u1 all [installed,automatic]</code></pre></div></div></blockquote></div><p>Right ....</p><p>Let&#039;s try doing this:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>~# apt install icedtea-netx-common  --dry-run</code></pre></div><p>This should tell us if it will fix part/all of the dependency issues as it should drag in updated versions of <span class="bbc">openjdk-6-jre</span> and <span class="bbc">openjdk-6-jre-headless</span>.</p><p>Please post the output.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2021 01:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii kernel update borks laptop]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30598#p30598</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="codebox"><pre><code>nemo@nautilus:~$ apt list | grep installed | grep openjdk

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

openjdk-8-jre/oldstable-security,now 8u292-b10-0+deb9u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
openjdk-8-jre-headless/oldstable-security,now 8u292-b10-0+deb9u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]

nemo@nautilus:~$ apt list | grep installed | grep icedtea

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

icedtea-8-plugin/now 1.6.2-3.1 amd64 [installed,local]
icedtea-netx-common/oldstable,now 1.6.2-3.1+deb9u1 all [installed,automatic]</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Micronaut)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2021 00:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii kernel update borks laptop]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30597#p30597</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Micronaut wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... finally have a result.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Indeed ...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>nemo@nautilus:~$ apt-cache rdepends icedtea-netx
icedtea-netx
Reverse Depends:
  icedtea-8-plugin
  icedtea-netx-common
  libbiojava4.0-java</code></pre></div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>nemo@nautilus:~$ apt-cache depends icedtea-netx
icedtea-netx
  Depends: openjdk-8-jre
  Depends: icedtea-netx-common
  Conflicts: &lt;openjdk-6-jre&gt;
  Conflicts: &lt;openjdk-6-jre-headless&gt;
  Replaces: &lt;openjdk-6-jre&gt;
  Replaces: &lt;openjdk-6-jre-headless&gt;</code></pre></div><p>From what I understand, the latest (kept back) version of <span class="bbc">icedtea-netx</span> breaks <span class="bbc">openjdk-6-jre</span> and <span class="bbc">openjdk-6-jre-headless</span>.</p><p>Open a terminal and as sudo/root do:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>apt list | grep installed | grep openjdk-</code></pre></div><p>and </p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>apt list | grep installed | grep icedtea-</code></pre></div><p>This will show us what <span class="bbc">openjdk-</span> and <span class="bbc">icedtea-</span> packages are installed.</p><p>Please post the result.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 23:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii kernel update borks laptop]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>OK, we finally have a result.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>nemo@nautilus:~$ apt-cache rdepends icedtea-netx
icedtea-netx
Reverse Depends:
  icedtea-8-plugin
  icedtea-netx-common
  libbiojava4.0-java
nemo@nautilus:~$ apt-cache depends icedtea-netx
icedtea-netx
  Depends: openjdk-8-jre
  Depends: icedtea-netx-common
  Conflicts: &lt;openjdk-6-jre&gt;
  Conflicts: &lt;openjdk-6-jre-headless&gt;
  Replaces: &lt;openjdk-6-jre&gt;
  Replaces: &lt;openjdk-6-jre-headless&gt;</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Micronaut)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 22:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii kernel update borks laptop]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30593#p30593</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Micronaut wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... command line programs are ingenius in their ability to find nitpicks ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No ...</p><p>It was because it was late and I did not test the stanza first.<br />Command line stanzas must use the correct syntax to work.</p><p>The correct one is this:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>~$ apt-cache depends icedtea-netx</code></pre></div><p>It will get you the package&#039;s dependencies.</p><p>Then this one will get you the package&#039;s dependencies as well as the dependencies of the dependencies.<br />ie: the dependency tree.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>~$ apt-cache rdepends icedtea-netx</code></pre></div><p>My apologies for the slip.<br />Please run those and post the result.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>root@nautilus:~# apt list | grep installed | grep icedtea

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

icedtea-8-plugin/now 1.6.2-3.1 amd64 [installed,local]
icedtea-netx-common/oldstable,now 1.6.2-3.1+deb9u1 all [installed,automatic]</code></pre></div><p>--&gt; There&#039;s <span class="bbu">no</span> need for root for these. &lt;--</p><p>BTW: you are using &#039;quote&quot; instead of &quot;code&quot;.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 21:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii kernel update borks laptop]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, Linux command line programs are ingenius in their ability to find nitpicks in commands. I couldn&#039;t figure out how to get apt-cache to not interpret the - inside a file name as a command switch.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>root@nautilus:~# apt list | grep installed | grep icedtea

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

icedtea-8-plugin/now 1.6.2-3.1 amd64 [installed,local]
icedtea-netx-common/oldstable,now 1.6.2-3.1+deb9u1 all [installed,automatic]
root@nautilus:~# apt-cache rdepends --installed $icedtea-netx
E: Command line option &#039;n&#039; [from -netx] is not understood in combination with the other options.
root@nautilus:~# apt-cache rdepends --installed &quot;$icedtea-netx&quot;
E: Command line option &#039;n&#039; [from -netx] is not understood in combination with the other options.
root@nautilus:~# apt-cache rdepends --installed $icedtea
E: No packages found</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Micronaut)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Micronaut wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... complains that &quot;apt upgrade --dry-run&quot; is not a valid combination of options.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Sorry ...<br />My bad.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Micronaut wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>The other works, but doesn&#039;t seem to produce any new information.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes it does.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>root@nautilus:/# apt upgrade --dry-run
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  linux-image-4.9.0-14-amd64
Use &#039;apt autoremove&#039; to remove it.

The following packages have been kept back: &lt;---- | x |
  icedtea-netx                              &lt;---- | x |

0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.</code></pre></div><p>From what I see, the package <span class="bbc">icedtea-netx</span> has been kept back and when a package is kept back it is because there is a dependency problem.</p><p>Open a terminal and do:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>~$ apt list | grep installed | grep icedtea</code></pre></div><p>This will tell you which <span class="bbc">icedtea-netx</span> version is installed.</p><p>Then do:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>apt-cache rdepends --installed $icedtea-netx</code></pre></div><p>This will tell you which package is asking for <span class="bbc">icedtea-netx</span>.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 00:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It complains that &quot;apt upgrade --dry-run&quot; is not a valid combination of options. Without the --dry-run, it just updates the package databases. Did you mean something else? The other works, but doesn&#039;t seem to produce any new information.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>root@nautilus:/# apt upgrade --dry-run<br />Reading package lists... Done<br />Building dependency tree&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;<br />Reading state information... Done<br />Calculating upgrade... Done<br />The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:<br />&#160; linux-image-4.9.0-14-amd64<br />Use &#039;apt autoremove&#039; to remove it.<br />The following packages have been kept back:<br />&#160; icedtea-netx<br />0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.</p></div></blockquote></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Micronaut)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 00:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Micronaut wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Linux nautilus 4.9.0-15-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.258-1 (2021-03-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Right.<br />You are running kernel version 4.9.0-15.</p><p>Open a terminal and (as root/sudo) do:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>~$ sudo apt update --dry-run</code></pre></div><p>This will simulate an update, please post the output.*</p><p>Then (as root/sudo) do:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>~$ sudo apt upgrade --dry-run</code></pre></div><p>This will simulate an upgrade, please post the output.*</p><p>* Please post the output as code.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 23:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Linux nautilus 4.9.0-15-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.258-1 (2021-03-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Micronaut)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 23:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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