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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30315#p30315</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>NicePics13 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Devuan, Slackware and OpenBSD are my holy trinity for expected behaviour, reliability and comfort <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>For me, its Hyperbola and Devuan.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>And as long as you don&#039;t use the testing branch of Hyperbola, it seems to be stable,</p><p>Though I like 0.4 at the moment even if it does have some quirks here and there...</p><p>But its being worked on so, <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Devuan is what I use for my gaming habits though. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2021 12:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30309#p30309</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Devuan, Slackware and OpenBSD are my holy trinity for expected behaviour, reliability and comfort <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (NicePics13)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2021 08:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30200#p30200</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Even if I weren&#039;t convinced of Devuan&#039;s technical superiority to the very similar, but now-systemd-dependent distro that I used for years, </p><p>I still remember the first time I installed an booted up Devuan Ascii, several years ago. I was almost immediately struck by:</p><ul><li><p>Devuan&#039;s ease of setup, configuration, and use</p></li><li><p>How much Devuan reminded me of a much-older, easier (for me to configure) version of my&#160; previously used distro, BEFORE IT ADDED SYSTEMD.</p></li></ul><p>During the years that I&#039;ve been here, I&#039;ve also been VERY impressed with Devuan&#039;s knowlegable, helpful, patient (not sarcastic) community, as demonstrated in <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4188" rel="nofollow">this 110-post thread</a> in which MY OWN STUPIDITY caused me to open and then keep the thread going to successful completion, AND <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4298" rel="nofollow">this 2-post thread</a>, in which I thanked everyone for their patient help, and apologized for having been so stupid.</p><p>I&#039;ve used Linux full-time since 1996 (CORRECTION: IT WAS 2006), but I&#039;ve personally never experienced that incredible combination of knowledge, skill, patience, and true helpfulness that I&#039;ve seen AND EXPERIENCED here.</p><p>To me, not only is Devuan the best software, but, also, its community is as good as its software, and that&#039;s really important to me.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ComputerBob)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2021 01:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30190#p30190</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>The bug was introduced after the beowulf version was frozen so it was never affected. The version in ceres was fixed by an upstream update.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Not a bug, a huge gaping hole.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (dice)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30189#p30189</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The bug was introduced after the beowulf version was frozen so it was never affected. The version in ceres was fixed by an upstream update.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30188#p30188</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>What do &quot;fixed&quot; and &quot;not affected&quot; mean? I expect &quot;not affected&quot; to mean &quot;doesn&#039;t need to be fixed&quot; rather than &quot;we fixed it&quot;.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30187#p30187</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Better link for the story: <a href="https://github.blog/2021-06-10-privilege-escalation-polkit-root-on-linux-with-bug/" rel="nofollow">https://github.blog/2021-06-10-privileg … -with-bug/</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30186#p30186</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Devuan&#039;s default graphical desktop relies pretty heavily on polkit and dbus.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>exactly but you cant have debian without systemd or dbus, you can but as default its not possible.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (dice)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30185#p30185</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Devuan&#039;s default graphical desktop relies pretty heavily on polkit and dbus.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30184#p30184</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>This vulnerability is assigned to the policykit-1 package, which is present and used in the current Devuan stable release:</p><p><a href="https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2021-3560" rel="nofollow">https://security-tracker.debian.org/tra … -2021-3560</a></p><p>It has nothing to do with systemd.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I think we know this, but as systemd and debian rely heavily on polkit and dbus, this puts devuan in a unique situation.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30180#p30180</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>This vulnerability is assigned to the policykit-1 package, which is present and used in the current Devuan stable release:</p><p><a href="https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2021-3560" rel="nofollow">https://security-tracker.debian.org/tra … -2021-3560</a></p><p>It has nothing to do with systemd.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30176#p30176</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the reasons i stay with devuan, having no reliance on systemd i can disable dbus which stops crap like this happening. Disabling dbus is not for everyone but ive made it work on my machines.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30174#p30174</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I am not one bit surprised, the harder the software is to audit, the more this bs happens. Heh...</p><p>Also, system dumb is a huge piece of software, its almost as big as the linux kernel I hear...</p><p>That is just wild... </p><p>and redhat thinks we should trust their bs? wtf...</p><p>no way... man. </p><p><img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 09:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30170#p30170</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Altoid!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (GlennW)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Reasons to stay with Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30169#p30169</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><p><em>In a blog post on Thursday, GitHub security researcher Kevin Backhouse recounted how he found the bug (CVE-2021-3560) in a service called polkit that is used in systemd, a common Linux system and service manager component.</em></p><p><em>Backhouse says the flaw is surprisingly easy to exploit, requiring only a few commands using standard terminal tools like bash, kill, and dbus-send.</em></p><p>See:<br />Seven-year-old make-me-root bug in Linux kernel patched. <a href="https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/linux_polkit_bug/" rel="nofollow">https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/ … olkit_bug/</a></p><p>So ...<br />Still want to know if there&#039;s a reason to stay with Devuan?</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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