Wishing you all the best . . .

Be happy!

And I'm not a software developer either, as you can read on LinuC. But I'll try to motivate some good people.

I see...

It seems you want others to construct your pet project Linux distribution thing for you?  Are you going to motivate these "good" people with monetary remuneration for their efforts?  Or do you expect them to work for free ?

As I first suspected - this is vapourware - in fact it hardly qualifies as that...  as that term usually applies to those with the skills but who lack either the time or the will...

You both have interesting sub-texts, or whatever it is called

Thanks for the tip with Hyperbola! There are certainly many more future-oriented projects. jOS is not yet born and maybe it will be called LinuC OS, or C4C, or TC Container?

This morning I woke up thinking of using TinyCore as the base container. It's so small that it runs on just about any old computer. A first aditional container is built for it, which extends TC and ensures 100% hardware detection and provides update management. Then a second container, which turns TC into a distribution that comes with pre-installed applications and a tool to install/compail extensions from other distributions. Then a third container, which turns TC into a full-flower distribution. Depending on requirements, TC can be installed with one, two or three containers. In addition, one builds a "client container" for TC, which makes "TC and the first container" a jOSclient that connects to an application server and works there with a preinstalled Linux distribution. All in one, configurable with containers.

I will develop the idea further on LinuC in the section "LinuC internals", LinuC OS

And please don't worry about Devuan! Nobody wants to take it away from you or even remodel it! And I'm not a software developer either, as you can read on LinuC. But I'll try to motivate some good people. And if it turns out that there are already projects that are on the way (Hyperbola, Fedora coreOS), LinuC will simply be what it was in my first idea, a simple guide to installing old computers with Linux . No problem, it just takes time. And today I have little of it, because I have to wash clothes ... by hand

Camtaf wrote:

so far, no hacked backend on ARM that I'm aware of

https://thehackernews.com/2016/05/andro … ploit.html

I think the relative bit is,

That is a 'Chinese' built kernel, not the hardware - your choice of distro to run on a RPi is up to you, not dictated by a manufacturer.

zapper wrote:

golinux wrote:

A glass that is full and overflowing cannot hold wine or wisdom.  Fear and desperation can manifest in infinite ways . . .

I suppose I am sometimes full of myself,  my bad...

Though I still think ideology is impossible to avoid, good or bad?

@ zapper . . .That was just a general observation about this thread and not directed at you.

Ah okay, nevermind then.

Still, I don't want to be cocky if possible, it never goes well for me...

golinux wrote:

zapper wrote:

That isn't the main reason I agree with you, the main reason, is ideology is impossible to avoid. There's good types and bad types, thus it is impossible to avoid, just like people.

Thus, he is fooling himself... or he is playing us for fools and is only pretending he wants to do this. I can't really tell at this point.

A glass that is full and overflowing cannot hold wine or wisdom.  Fear and desperation can manifest in infinite ways . . .

I suppose I am sometimes full of myself,  my bad...

Though I still think ideology is impossible to avoid, good or bad?

@ zapper . . .That was just a general observation about this thread and not directed at you.

zapper wrote:

blackhole wrote:

Against ideology?

That isn't the main reason I agree with you, the main reason, is ideology is impossible to avoid. There's good types and bad types, thus it is impossible to avoid, just like people.

Thus, he is fooling himself... or he is playing us for fools and is only pretending he wants to do this. I can't really tell at this point.

A glass that is full and overflowing cannot hold wine or wisdom.  Fear and desperation can manifest in infinite ways . . .

I suppose I am sometimes full of myself,  my bad...

Though I still think ideology is impossible to avoid, good or bad?

blackhole wrote:

Against ideology?

That isn't the main reason I agree with you, the main reason, is ideology is impossible to avoid. There's good types and bad types, thus it is impossible to avoid, just like people.

Thus, he is fooling himself... or he is playing us for fools and is only pretending he wants to do this. I can't really tell at this point.

A glass that is full and overflowing cannot hold wine or wisdom.  Fear and desperation can manifest in infinite ways . . .

"Project management" eh?

Against ideology?

"Praised be Jesus Christ!" is the only content on your website.

I think you should stop now.

That isn't the main reason I agree with you, the main reason, is ideology is impossible to avoid. There's good types and bad types, thus it is impossible to avoid, just like people.

Thus, he is fooling himself... or he is playing us for fools and is only pretending he wants to do this. I can't really tell at this point.

At the moment I'm working on my own project, it's called LinuC. Perhaps this project will one day also lead to a LinuC OS, which is based on the above 4 distributions and takes over the positive from all of them? If God willing, yes!

Until then, I'll just work on my project every day and hope it will be a success. My "warnings" are formulated in general terms, but I plan to include detailed warnings in the individual distributions so that other users know what they are risking.

linuc.mipropia.com/

At the moment I am still working with antiX, even if I wish it was a goodX, an antiX without anti-ideology. And I also hope that Devuan will one day be free of ideology, because it is already systemd free. Come back to the normal world and forget about the ideological world, because ideologies are just fantasies of unstable people who have let themselves be caught! By whom? You know exactly

Have a nice weekend

That sounds like a huge ordeal, you will probably give up, if you aren't prepared for the huge monumental task...

I honestly think if you truly want freedom, you should ditch this idea of forking the linux kernel in general.  Find something a little less complicated, like OpenBSD...

There is a reason Hyperbola choose that for their future base.  But its up to you man what you choose to use your time on.

That being said, some Christians are working on Hyperbola also.

They seem to think the libre ideology has some merit, even if it doesn't go far enough...

Which in my opinion it doesn't... same with many of them.

we very badly need a fifth freedom, one where no one is allowed to deliberately bloat a system to deliberately break backwards compatibility forcing adoption of their services.

This of course would be extremely hard, thus it hasn't happened.

Possibly even near impossible actually.

so far, no hacked backend on ARM that I'm aware of

https://thehackernews.com/2016/05/andro … ploit.html

Thank you for contributing a quasi-technical post.

How noble of you to keep private private but not so noble of you to use it as an opportunity to denigrate events experienced in space and time as "opinion". I doubt you would equate the apple falling on Newton's head as "opinion". But your manipulations don't fly here. Everyone can see them (if anyone is still reading this useless thread).

The motivations that drive actions are even more important than the actions themselves. That you would consider that I could pen "Open Letter to the Linux World" says more about you than me because I would never use such language, make those grammatical errors or participate in such a subterfuge to the Linux community.

Finally there is a difference between license and freedom. License implies permission to follow whatever whim enters the mind. This is what children do. True freedom is quite different.  It is the ability to understand the motivations preceding an action and to choose to act in a way that is beneficial to oneself and others.  It requires self-examination and self-control. Sadly, many adults never acquire that skill which is the main reason our species is so self-destructive.  It will, in the end, be our undoing.

HND

Against ideology?

"Praised be Jesus Christ!" is the only content on your website.

I think you should stop now.

I received and read an email from you again. I will keep it to myself because it reflects your personal opinion. And I don't know if you want to publicly post this opinion here. I post my personal opinion publicly without fear, even if it is deleted every now and then and my topic is closed. That is not what I and others mean by freedom of expression! But maybe something in my post caused you to get scared?

I also read this open letter that you posted.

http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/ker … 02496.html

I don't know him and I don't know if it's you either. His arguments sound a little scared. As far as I can see, systemd is not "dangerous", just an idea of how to put things in order. Of course, I also wonder how the security of Linux distributions is doing. Sure, there are apparently still no viruses against Linux. It's good! But what about malware that is Linux internal? As a former IT engineer (with little programming experience) I think that there are enough opportunities to abuse Linux by the Linux programmers themselves!

And this is where ideology comes into play! People are scared of the power of Microsoft and we all know Bill Gates' background and also his current "projects". So people’s fear is well founded. It's different with Linux, because the Linux makers are scattered all over the world, mostly they are anonymous and often quite strongly ideologized (example antiX). It is interesting that nobody seems to be afraid of Linux. Why not? Because it's free? Does that make it less dangerous?

Ideologies seduce people and often ideologies even become fascist. Just because Linux has so many distributions doesn't mean it can't be misused. But of course, the possible abuse would then be better hidden and not so easy to find. Maybe this is one of the reasons why some are so strongly against systemd? I just guess.

As I wrote before, I'm not an IT engineer with a lot of programming experience. I'm not a systems specialist either. I am (or was) involved in project management. For many this discipline seems to be unnecessary, especially for those without discipline . Well, should they think that way and keep putting their projects on the wall, what's my business? Yes, it concerns me a lot, because I am basically a simple Linux user and then I reap the problems of failed or ideological open-source projects.

For about 3 months I have been looking for the "best" Linux distribution for me. No, I haven't found it yet and I run the risk of wanting a new distribution . As well-founded as Devuan, with tools as good as antiX, as easy to update as Fedora coreOS or Silverblue (container method), as small and light as TinyCore! And of course made by good IT engineers and supported by supporters who are socially, methodically and didactically experienced. A dream? We will see.

But the MOST IMPORTANT thing is that the distribution should be IDEOLOGY FREE! Because it is ideology that creates problems for us, not systemd.

At the moment I'm working on my own project, it's called LinuC. Perhaps this project will one day also lead to a LinuC OS, which is based on the above 4 distributions and takes over the positive from all of them? If God willing, yes!

Until then, I'll just work on my project every day and hope it will be a success. My "warnings" are formulated in general terms, but I plan to include detailed warnings in the individual distributions so that other users know what they are risking.

linuc.mipropia.com/

At the moment I am still working with antiX, even if I wish it was a goodX, an antiX without anti-ideology. And I also hope that Devuan will one day be free of ideology, because it is already systemd free. Come back to the normal world and forget about the ideological world, because ideologies are just fantasies of unstable people who have let themselves be caught! By whom? You know exactly

Have a nice weekend