Oh men! The problem is almost sitting in front of the system.

I would underline that.

You are NOT doing everything manually, you still use guided procedures. This option "Manual" in the installer is just an entry point. Select the device listed and play around with all options until you understand how to set everything according to your needs. Since its a VM you can't damage anything. If you fail, you can easily start again from the beginning.

rolfie

fsmithred wrote:

After you configure the clock/timezone, you get the following screen. Choose "Manual".
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … disks1.png

Here's the link for that page: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … all-devuan

Oh men! The problem is almost sitting in front of the system. :0

But now I tried the manual configuration. When I choose "USE ALL SPACE IN ONE PARTITION"

- Nevertheless a SWAP will be created.
- And Installation will not continue until I accept the SWAP partition.

I can not find a way to continue without swap partition.

Hi Sailor17,

Choose a manual partitioning in debian-installer and ignore the alert message appearing if you have not selected any partitions for use as swap space. Say you don't want to return to the partitioning menu:

https://www.gnuinos.org/ceres/screensho … -12-29.png

I've just uploaded the sequence of screenshots detailing each step during the installation process. Hope they help you:

https://www.gnuinos.org/ceres/screenshots/

The iso image used above is an unofficial image of devuan ceres:

https://www.gnuinos.org/ceres/

It has been built only for testing purposes during our development of the live-sdk. The username and password for live sessions are user and live, respectively.

Another clarification: select the text mode of debian-installer because the version of main-menu.udeb from chimaera/ceres may fail in graphical mode.

Note: Don't use any of the images of gnuinos beowulf because they won't work properly in your virtual machine, since they are VDEV experiments.

After you configure the clock/timezone, you get the following screen. Choose "Manual".
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … disks1.png

Here's the link for that page: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … all-devuan

Oh men! The problem is almost sitting in front of the system. :0

But now I tried the manual configuration. When I choose "USE ALL SPACE IN ONE PARTITION"

- Nevertheless a SWAP will be created.
- And Installation will not continue until I accept the SWAP partition.

I can not find a way to continue without swap partition.

Here's the link for that page: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … all-devuan

rolfie

Hi Hans,

some comments from somebody who has installed many distros in VBox over the years.

Sailor17 wrote:

I've installed devuan on VirtualBox. VDI with 32 MB dynamic memory allocation.

Are you sure you are talking about MB? Or do you mean GByte?

Anyway, my suggestion for a working VM that dynamically expands without issues if required:
As memory assign at least 4 GByte RAM, better 8 or 16GByte, depending on whats available on your HW.
Use one VDI file, 32 GByte, dynamically allocated.

When running the installer, use MANUAL PARTITIONING, don't use the guided procedures. After a few intermediate steps, assign the VDI drive completely to /, no sub-structure. You will get asked if you want to continue without using swap.

I would use a LVM and assign one logical volume for swap with the same amount as the memory available to the VM.

rolfie

@rolfie

Hi rolfie thanks for the suggestions. Yes I'm using 32GB VDI on SSD  :0 , 4GB of 8GB RAM and 128 MB for graphic. This worked even for Ubunto 20.X. The only trouble is guest additions in VirtualBox do not work properly. But this is another story.

Today I've been running trough a new installation with the desktop ISO, but there was no option to run manual partitioning.Unless there was a prompt which continued after a while with default answer. I wasn't all the time in front of the monitor. This installation of devuan is surprisingly very slow.

From other distros I know that during installation there is a prompt which ask whether to configure manual or use defaults.

Disabling and deleting the SWAP partition and resizing the disk is no problem. Only on start-up the system tried to find the SWAP and waited until a timeout. I followed this Fedora Forum post to deactivate the SWAP in GRUB. But I'm struggled at point 3 (look at the ed of the post) because in my /etc/default/grub file is no entry for the SWAP file.

So two questions to be answered

1.Is there a way to force manual configuring using the desktop ISO or use alternative installations?
2. How to remove SWAP partition safe and manually.

Hans

some comments from somebody who has installed many distros in VBox over the years.

Are you sure you are talking about MB? Or do you mean GByte?

Anyway, my suggestion for a working VM that dynamically expands without issues if required:
As memory assign at least 4 GByte RAM, better 8 or 16GByte, depending on whats available on your HW.
Use one VDI file, 32 GByte, dynamically allocated.

When running the installer, use MANUAL PARTITIONING, don't use the guided procedures. After a few intermediate steps, assign the VDI drive completely to /, no sub-structure. You will get asked if you want to continue without using swap.

I would use a LVM and assign one logical volume for swap with the same amount as the memory available to the VM.

rolfie

Edit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume to

RESUME=none

Then

# update-initramfs -u -k all

Note that you don't appear to have a swap file at all so you should probably remove that term from the title and OP.

Because this suggestion leads directly into a full system crash!
Now I'm trying to find an option during installation to disable Swap installation and not going into trouble anyway.

Please point me in the right direction. Any suggestion is appreciated.

Best regards Hans

Sailor17 wrote:

Sorry for the google drive link. But it is to my personal folders. I don't want to open a "share picture account".

And I'm not going to open a google account just to view your log.
Pro tip: If you want people to spend their free time helping you, don't make it difficult for them. There are plenty of free no-signup imagehosts and pastebins.

Sailor17 wrote:

Or how to install devuan without that dam SWAP.

Pretty sure the netinstall iso still allows you to do that with manual partitioning.

Sailor17 wrote:

If this is going on, I will say goodbye linux and welcome windows. The actual development of linux is taking us back to the Middle Ages of Windos 3.

If that's your attitude, goodbye and good riddance.

Sailor17 wrote:

To my own surprise windows10 actually works fast, without any bad surprise under the hood.

If you like windows so much, nobody is preventing you from using it. vOv

Don't waste your time not answering questions. This is complete out of topic! :0

Sorry for the google drive link. But it is to my personal folders. I don't want to open a "share picture account".

And I'm not going to open a google account just to view your log.
Pro tip: If you want people to spend their free time helping you, don't make it difficult for them. There are plenty of free no-signup imagehosts and pastebins.

Pretty sure the netinstall iso still allows you to do that with manual partitioning.

If that's your attitude, goodbye and good riddance.

If you like windows so much, nobody is preventing you from using it. vOv

aitor wrote:

Did you try replacing its <options> from defaults or sw to noauto instead of commenting out the line in /etc/fstab? For example:

# mount -a

Unfortunately not because my system crashed totally following the steps from the other post.

Please, in quoting the answer of another member of the forum try to keep the content of the frame in coherence. Thanks.

Sailor17 wrote:

Also commenting out the SWAP part in FSTAB didn't help.

Did you try replacing its <options> from defaults or sw to noauto instead of commenting out the line in /etc/fstab? For example:

# mount -a

Unfortunately not because my system crashed totally following the steps from the other post.

If this is going on, I will say goodbye linux and welcome windows. The actual development of linux is taking us back to the Middle Ages of Windos 3.
To my own surprise windows10 actually works fast, without any bad surprise under the hood. Except of the monstrous size, but this is the same as Ubuntu and others. At this time I can not get one Linux systen depending on debian working out of the box in a VirtualBox.
Lets say until Ubuntu 16.X. this was no problem.

Thanks systemd!!!

Cheers
Hans

Edit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume to

RESUME=none

Then

# update-initramfs -u -k all

Note that you don't appear to have a swap file at all so you should probably remove that term from the title and OP.

Well I did this and in case I have not misunderstood things this leads to a total system crash.
Look at this.
drive.google.com/file/d/15EAGskhOkEC2Oz … OsHAp/view
Sorry for the google drive link. But it is to my personal folders. I don't want to open a "share picture account".

Any suggestions to get my system back?
Or how to install devuan without that dam SWAP.

Hans

Also commenting out the SWAP part in FSTAB didn't help.

Did you try replacing its <options> from defaults or sw to noauto instead of commenting out the line in /etc/fstab? For example:

# <file system>                                                     <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
UUID=17dcf181-b71d-4f1c-918d-2d3fff480d85     none                    swap      noauto               0              0

With noauto, the device can be only mounted explicitly.

Reload fstab:

# mount -a