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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Cursor oddity under backported kernel]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have just had a thought! I usually have the Xen hypervisor running, so I thought that I should try booting the backports kernel on the bare metal. This seems to remove the problem. I will continue to look to see if I can find what causes the problem.</p><p>Thank you for your help.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 14:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Cursor oddity under backported kernel]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have now removed the <span class="bbc">xserver-xorg-video-intel</span> package, which made no difference, either with or without <span class="bbc">/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-modesetting.conf</span>.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Geoff 42)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 14:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Cursor oddity under backported kernel]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>EDIT: is there anything printed in the X.Org log when you experience the problem?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>There is a lot of stuff in the Xorg.0.log file and I can&#039;t see anything which tells me anything helpful. I will carry on looking at the xserver-xorg-video-intel package.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Geoff 42)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 13:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Cursor oddity under backported kernel]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... off-topic for this thread ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Quite so.<br />Thanks for pointing it out. 8^)</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 13:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Cursor oddity under backported kernel]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=29026#p29026</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... but X is now abandonware ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Hmm ...<br />Maybe it&#039;s too soon to sign the certificate?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The maintainer of the X codebase described it as such himself: <a href="https://ajaxnwnk.blogspot.com/2020/10/on-abandoning-x-server.html" rel="nofollow">https://ajaxnwnk.blogspot.com/2020/10/o … erver.html</a></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>With respect to the matter of X, if Red Hat, IBM et al are attempting to sink it, don&#039;t count me in.<br />I have faith in the resilience of the Linux ecosystem albeit not in its constituents.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>X has been maintained by Red Hat almost exclusively because nobody else has bothered. Now they can&#039;t be bothered either. It&#039;s not a case of &quot;trying to sink it&quot;, much as the conspiracy theorists would like to convince themselves otherwise.</p><p>But this is all off-topic for this thread so we should probably continue any discussion in <a href="http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3914" rel="nofollow">your other thread</a>.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 12:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Cursor oddity under backported kernel]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... but X is now abandonware ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Hmm ...<br />Maybe it&#039;s too soon to sign the certificate?<br />There&#039;s still much to be said.</p><p>Many years ago (unfortunately <em>much</em> later than I should have) one day I realised that I could always solve any apparent confusion or contradiction by stepping back and having a close look at what was going on with the purpose of getting a grasp of <em>who</em> was <em>where</em> and <em>why</em>.</p><p>While the <span class="bbc">why</span> part of the exercise many times remained (as it usually does) unknown, the <span class="bbc">who</span> and <span class="bbc">where</span> have always proved to be quite revealing.<br />The end result being that whatever confusion or contradiction I may have had cleared up very quickly.</p><p>To wit:<br />I realised I was definitely a Democrat by the age of 13 <em>not</em> because of my reading of the opinion pieces of the two newspapers I delivered every afternoon but by listening to what Mr. Davis, my next door neighbour and certified <em>dyed in the wool</em> Republican had to say about things in general.<br />I&#039;ll always be grateful to the old chap for that.</p><p>With respect to the matter of X, if Red Hat, IBM et al are attempting to sink it, don&#039;t count me in.<br />I have faith in the resilience of the Linux ecosystem albeit not in its constituents.</p><p>Just my 0.02.</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 12:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Geoff 42 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>whether it is a red herring</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Probably. See <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=Modesetting-Disable-Atomic" rel="nofollow">https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= … ble-Atomic</a></p><p>There are fixes for the atomic modesetting glitches but X is now abandonware so they are unlikely to ever be applied.</p><p>EDIT: is there anything printed in the X.Org log when you experience the problem?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 11:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Cursor oddity under backported kernel]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your suggestions.</p><p>I have created the file <span class="bbc">/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-modesetting.conf</span>, as suggested in your indicated posting, containing :-</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>Section &quot;Device&quot;
   Identifier &quot;Intel Graphics&quot;
   Driver &quot;modesetting&quot;
EndSection</code></pre></div><p>And rebooted into the 5.10 kernel, but the cursor problem is still there.</p><p>I notice that the word <span class="bbc">modesetting</span> is used. This may be related to the problem I was trying to investigate! This was that <span class="bbc">dmesg</span> reports :-</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>broken atomic modeset userspace detected, disabling atomic</p></div></blockquote></div><p>This occurs with both kernels. I don&#039;t know whether it is a red herring!</p><p>Geoff</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Geoff 42)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 11:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Cursor oddity under backported kernel]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Does removing the xserver-xorg-video-intel package help? The Intel DDX driver is reportedly pretty buggy, Debian recommend using X&#039;s builtin modesetting driver instead.</p><p>Or just use an X.Org configuration file to test the modesetting driver: <a href="http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28863#p28863" rel="nofollow">http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28863#p28863</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 10:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[[SOLVED] Cursor oddity under backported kernel]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=29018#p29018</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I was investigating an error message (unrelated to the cursor) when I installed the backports kernel. This did not fix the unrelated problem, but it did produce an odd effect on the cursor.</p><p>I was running Beowulf with the <span class="bbc">4.19.0-12</span> kernel and then installed <span class="bbc">5.10.0-0.bpo.3-amd64</span>.<br />I am using LXQt, with Openbox.<br />On Intel hardware and graphics.</p><p>With the backports kernel, the cursor is very slow to change as I move over different areas. Thus, as I move over the corner of a window, it can take 4 or 5 seconds for the cursor to complete the change from an arrow to the L shaped corner drag cursor. This does not happen on the 4.19 kernel.</p><p>I have had a quick search and have not found any references to this behaviour. Does this mean anything to anyone?</p><p>Geoff</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Geoff 42)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 10:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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