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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>You shouldn&#039;t see interface names like that for internal interfaces.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That interface name is derived from the MAC address and is used when the firmware doesn&#039;t provide onboard or hotplug index numbers or the physical location of the device connector is unknown. This is most common for USB devices but it can also happen with internal cards.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nomorelogic wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I don&#039;t know the difference between apt and apt-get, looking around I found that &quot;apt is better way in devuan/debian shell&quot;.<br />Do I&#039;m wrong?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The <span class="bbc">apt</span> command offers a more &quot;user-friendly&quot; interface for APT and is currently recommended over <span class="bbc">apt-get</span> for interactive use but not for scripting (because the command interface isn&#039;t stable yet).</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nomorelogic wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>after reboot and log in xfce, to connect to network, dhclient was needed again</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Edit <span class="bbc">/etc/network/interfaces</span> to configure the device:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>auto enx34298f882acf
iface enx34298f882acf inet dhcp</code></pre></div><p>See also <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Using_DHCP_to_automatically_configure_the_interface" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfigur … _interface</a> &amp; <a href="https://manpages.debian.org/buster/ifupdown2/interfaces.5.en.html" rel="nofollow">interfaces(5)</a>.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 16:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28272#p28272</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>well... this response is from devuan chimaera with xfce installed <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># uname -a
Linux refracta 5.10.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.19-1 (2021-03-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux</code></pre></div><p>thanks to command dhclient I was able to connect to network<br />and yes, I don&#039;t have a wired interface on board but I need a usb/thunderbolt to connect as wired</p><p>All update done as:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>#apt update
#apt upgrade
#tasksel</code></pre></div><p>@jacksprat<br />I don&#039;t know the difference between apt and apt-get, looking around I found that &quot;apt is better way in devuan/debian shell&quot;.<br />Do I&#039;m wrong?</p><p>I can see this is a pre-beta, some fixes are needed but I think I can use this installation to experiment.</p><p>Just to let you know:</p><p>This is content of file interfaces:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>cat /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback</code></pre></div><p>If I can help to test something you can ask.</p><p>after reboot and log in xfce, to connect to network, dhclient was needed again<br />now I can see only wired interface but I&#039;ve wifi too.<br />I hope I can uses wifi in future.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># ip addr
1: lo: &lt;LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP&gt; mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enx34298f882acf: &lt;BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP&gt; mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 34:29:8f:88:2a:cf brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.1.10/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global dynamic enx34298f882acf
       valid_lft 85887sec preferred_lft 85887sec
    inet6 fe80::3629:8fff:fe88:2acf/64 scope link 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever</code></pre></div><p>Thanks again to you guys.<br />nomorelogic</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 00:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28270#p28270</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>nomorelogic:&#160; I thought the command was</p><p>&#160; # apt-get update</p><p>on devuan/debian.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (jacksprat)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 23:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28257#p28257</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Assuming this is your wired interface:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>dhclient enx00243218dfaa</code></pre></div><p>Ok, the problem is in /etc/network/interfaces. Replace eth0 with enx00243218dfaa or do something to change that long name. Is that a usb ethernet dongle? You shouldn&#039;t see interface names like that for internal interfaces.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 19:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28251#p28251</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>hi all<br />chimaera installed thanks to refractinstaller<br />but I need some help cause network don&#039;t work<br />(sorry for following message not in english)</p><p>how can I setup wifi or wired network?</p><p>1: lo: &lt;LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP&gt; mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000<br />&#160; &#160; link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00<br />&#160; &#160; inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever<br />&#160; &#160; inet6 ::1/128 scope host <br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever<br />2: enx00243218dfaa: &lt;BROADCAST,MULTICAST&gt; mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000<br />&#160; &#160; link/ether 00:24:32:18:df:aa brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff</p><p># apt update</p><p>WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.</p><p>Errore:1 <a href="http://deb.devuan.org/merged" rel="nofollow">http://deb.devuan.org/merged</a> chimaera InRelease<br />&#160; Risoluzione di &quot;deb.devuan.org&quot; temporaneamente non riuscita<br />Lettura elenco dei pacchetti...<br />Generazione albero delle dipendenze...<br />Lettura informazioni sullo stato...<br />Tutti i pacchetti sono aggiornati.<br />W: Impossibile recuperare <a href="http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera/InRelease" rel="nofollow">http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera/InRelease</a>&#160; Risoluzione di &quot;deb.devuan.org&quot; temporaneamente non riuscita<br />W: Impossibile scaricare alcuni file di indice: saranno ignorati o verranno usati quelli vecchi.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (nomorelogic)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 18:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>quick update:<br />voidlinux (x86_64, glibc, xfce) installed correctly<br />works great!</p><p>next time I&#039;ll try refracta and chimaera</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (nomorelogic)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 11:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28202#p28202</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>nomorelogic:&#160; I saw you needed recent mesa.&#160; Both void live image and devuan [ceres] have the latest mesa-20.3.4 package</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (jacksprat)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 17:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28198#p28198</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#039;ll try chimaera iso and refractainstaller.<br />I need some days, but I&#039;ll do this test.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (nomorelogic)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28194#p28194</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nomorelogic wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>fsmithred had chimaera-based live isos but: no xorg...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You can always install X afterwards.</p><p>For example:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># apt install tasksel
# tasksel</code></pre></div><p>^ That will let you select any of the full desktop environments, just as you would from a netinstall ISO image.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jacksprat wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Modern INTEL processor:&#160; can I suggest that you download a modern, live distro such as one from</p><p>&#160; &#160;<a href="https://voidlinux.org/download/" rel="nofollow">https://voidlinux.org/download/</a></p><p>as Void kernels are from 2021, [5.10.17], it would be quick way of exploring this issue.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>thank you</p><p>I&#039;ll surely try voidlinux</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (nomorelogic)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>hi guys and thanks for you support!</p><p>whell, to tell the whole story, I&#039;m leaving my historical distro cause need a new laptop and my historical distro still use &quot;the init system that shall not be named&quot;.</p><p>Currently, on my new laptop, I have a dual boot: artix and devuan. Artix boots correctly but (1) it&#039;s not stable as I need and (2) I prefer Devuan.</p><p>With dual boot (I think) I can try Chimaera but...<br />Head_on_a_Stick had a guide but says &quot;but neither option is ideal&quot;. <br />fsmithred had chimaera-based live isos but: no xorg...</p><p>Well, I undestand, it’s too early for chimaera.<br />Do you think it’s possible, in the near future, to experiment with chimaera and a desktop environment?</p><p>Thanks again!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (nomorelogic)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28191#p28191</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Modern INTEL processor:&#160; can I suggest that you download a modern, live distro such as one from</p><p>&#160; &#160;<a href="https://voidlinux.org/download/" rel="nofollow">https://voidlinux.org/download/</a></p><p>as Void kernels are from 2021, [5.10.17], it would be quick way of exploring this issue.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (jacksprat)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>It&#039;s not just the kernel. That generation of Intel integrated graphics chips require a newer Mesa version.</p><p>The OP could try chimaera now or even add the MX Linux repositories — they&#039;ve backported Mesa to a buster base, I have a guide to adding &amp; pinning their repositories over at forums.debian.net — but neither option is ideal. I would usually recommend Arch for new hardware but most people here won&#039;t like that because of the init system that shall not be named (or spelled correctly).</p></div></blockquote></div><p>There is artix linux which is a derivative of archlinux that has 3 different inits to choose from - openrc, runit and s6.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (dice)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28187#p28187</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of chimaera-based live isos here:<br /><a href="https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/" rel="nofollow">https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/</a></p><p>No xorg. No non-free. Run &#039;refractainstaller&#039; to install to hard drive. Or do a debootstrap install.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28185#p28185</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s not just the kernel. That generation of Intel integrated graphics chips require a newer Mesa version.</p><p>The OP could try chimaera now or even add the MX Linux repositories — they&#039;ve backported Mesa to a buster base, I have a guide to adding &amp; pinning their repositories over at forums.debian.net — but neither option is ideal. I would usually recommend Arch for new hardware but most people here won&#039;t like that because of the init system that shall not be named (or spelled correctly).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 12:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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