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Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (Altoid) — Tue, 23 Feb 2021 20:42:12 +0000

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

... it's there to remind us all that we're not running systemd.

Hmm ...
Both the slim 1.3.6-5.1+devuan6 (merged beowulf/main) and 1.3.6-5.2+devuan1 (/merged beowulf /unstable) have default-logind | logind | consolekit as depends.

Depends slim 1.3.6-5.2+devuan1
libc6 (>= 2.14), libck-connector0, libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.9.14), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libjpeg62-turbo (>= 1.3.1), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), libpng16-16 (>= 1.6.2-1), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2), libx11-6, libxext6, libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxmu6, libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.2.99.3), debconf (>= 1.2.9) | debconf-2.0, dbus, default-logind | logind | consolekit, x11-xserver-utils, lsb-base

Depends slim 1.3.6-5.1+devuan6
libc6 (>= 2.17), libck-connector0, libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.9.14), libgcc-s1 (>= 3.0), libjpeg62-turbo (>= 1.3.1), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), libpng16-16 (>= 1.6.2-1), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2), libx11-6, libxext6, libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxmu6, libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.2.99.3), debconf (>= 1.2.9) | debconf-2.0, dbus, default-logind | logind | consolekit, x11-xserver-utils, lsb-base

I looked to see if it was worth installing the unstable and check slim.log but I'd probably have an issue with libc6 (>= 2.17).

Cheers,

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (Altoid) — Tue, 23 Feb 2021 17:01:14 +0000

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

SLiM has been dead since 2013 ...

Still works ...
It's just the entry in slim.log.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

... so it doesn't support logind sessions correctly.

I see.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

... a different display manager.

I've always liked this one.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

... no display manager at all ...

Tried that and had all sort of permission problems.
Si I installed slim and they all went away instantly.

So I'll keep it. 8^P!

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (Altoid) — Tue, 23 Feb 2021 16:56:03 +0000

fsmithred wrote:

Sorry, I don't know ...

No problem. 8^D

fsmithred wrote:

... see the "not provided by any .service files" a lot, and I just ignore it.

Right.

fsmithred wrote:

... remind us all that we're not running systemd.

Lol ...

fsmithred wrote:

Try this:

apt -s remove consolekit

[root@devuan ~]# apt -s remove consolekit
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package 'consolekit' is not installed, so not removed
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[root@devuan ~]#

Nothing.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Cheers,

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick) — Tue, 23 Feb 2021 16:43:58 +0000

Altoid wrote:

It would seem that slim is still looking for consolekit in spite of it being replaced by elogind.
Why is that?

SLiM has been dead since 2013 so it doesn't support logind sessions correctly.

Use a different display manager. Or no display manager at all, they're just bloat anyway

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (fsmithred) — Tue, 23 Feb 2021 16:29:00 +0000

Sorry, I don't know the answer. I see the "not provided by any .service files" a lot, and I just ignore it. I assume it's there to remind us all that we're not running systemd.

Try this:

apt -s remove consolekit

and see what it wants to take with it.

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (Altoid) — Tue, 23 Feb 2021 12:33:22 +0000

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

groucho@devuan:~$ aptitude why consolekit
i   slim Depends default-logind | logind | consolekit
groucho@devuan:~$
What does this mean in practical terms? eg: for slim which I am fond of.
It means slim needs something that provides default-logind or one of the others on that line.

I'm writing on this again as I have found this in /var/log/slim.log:

slim: waiting for X server to begin accepting connections.
slim: Consolekit::open_session: Unable to open session: The name org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit was not provided by any .service files
slim: falling back to PAM session
groucho@devuan:/var/log$

It would seem that slim is still looking for consolekit in spite of it being replaced by elogind.
Why is that?

I am being able to log in without problems.

Thanks in advance,

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (Altoid) — Sat, 20 Feb 2021 19:57:10 +0000

fsmithred wrote:

... mean in practical terms? eg: for slim which I am fond of.
... slim needs something that provides default-logind or one of the others on that line.

So ...
slim depends on default-logind or logind or consolekit.
Right?

My question was aimed more at the existence of consolekit as a residual configuration component:

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i consolekit

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
--- snip ---
consolekit/stable,now 1.2.1-8 amd64 [residual-config]      <------- 
--- snip ---
groucho@devuan:~$

fsmithred wrote:

If a package depends on libpam-system | libpam-elogind, it'll complain about missing libpam-systemd if neither of those is there.

I see ...

Seeing that the residual consolekit is there after I installed elogind, something will surely break if I remove it, right?
Maybe I am giving the residual aspect of it too much importance. (?)

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (fsmithred) — Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:27:21 +0000

groucho@devuan:~$ aptitude why consolekit
i   slim Depends default-logind | logind | consolekit
groucho@devuan:~$
What does this mean in practical terms? eg: for slim which I am fond of.

It means slim needs something that provides default-logind or one of the others on that line. If a package depends on libpam-system | libpam-elogind, it'll complain about missing libpam-systemd if neither of those is there. Install libpam-elogind first and anything that wants libpam-systemd will be happy. (See the Provides line below)

$ apt show libpam-elogind
Package: libpam-elogind
Version: 241.4-2
Priority: optional
Source: elogind
Provides: default-logind, libpam-systemd, logind
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.28), libcap2 (>= 1:2.10), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), elogind (= 241.4-2), libpam-runtime
Conflicts: libpam-ck-connector
Breaks: libpam-systemd
Replaces: libpam-systemd

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (Altoid) — Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:47:35 +0000

Hello:

dice wrote:

why are you using apt list ?

Gives me information of what's installed from the apt repertoire?
I find why and why-not quite enlightening.

dice wrote:

if you want to see what is on your system use dpkg

OK.

groucho@devuan:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i consolekit
rc  consolekit                             1.2.1-8                             amd64        framework for defining and tracking users, sessions and seats
ii  libck-connector0:amd64                 1.2.1-8                             amd64        ConsoleKit libraries
groucho@devuan:~$

Thanks a lot for the heads-up.

Cheers,

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (dice) — Sat, 20 Feb 2021 15:27:37 +0000

~$ aptitude why-not consolekit
i   policykit-1-gnome             Depends   policykit-1                                                     
i A policykit-1                   Depends   libpolkit-backend-1-0 (= 0.105-25+devuan8)                      
i A libpolkit-backend-1-0         Depends   libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0 | libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0
i A libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0 Conflicts consolekit

why are you using apt list ?

if you want to see what is on your system use dpkg

dpkg -l | grep -i consolekit

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (Altoid) — Sat, 20 Feb 2021 15:07:03 +0000

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

... see about trying to get it done this weekend.

Had an idle half hour while waiting for something, like we are all doing these days.
Upgrade worked, without issues. =^D

Then I checked to see:

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i installed | grep consolekit

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

groucho@devuan:~$

OK, consolekit is no longer installed.

I went further and found this:

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i consolekit

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

consolekit-dbgsym/stable 1.2.1-8 amd64
consolekit-dbgsym/stable 1.2.1-8 i386
consolekit/stable,now 1.2.1-8 amd64 [residual-config]      <-------  
consolekit/stable 1.2.1-8 i386
libconsolekit-dev/stable 1.2.1-8 amd64
libconsolekit-dev/stable 1.2.1-8 i386
libconsolekit1-dbgsym/stable 1.2.1-8 amd64
libconsolekit1-dbgsym/stable 1.2.1-8 i386
libconsolekit1/stable 1.2.1-8 amd64
libconsolekit1/stable 1.2.1-8 i386
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0-dbgsym/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0-dbgsym/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-dev/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-dev/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0-dbgsym/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0-dbgsym/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-dev/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-dev/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
groucho@devuan:~$

So I asked:

groucho@devuan:~$ aptitude why consolekit
i   slim Depends default-logind | logind | consolekit
groucho@devuan:~$

What does this mean in practical terms? eg: for slim which I am fond of.

Thanks in advance,

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (Altoid) — Sat, 20 Feb 2021 14:17:00 +0000

Hello:

dice wrote:

... think you will be ok upgrading from consolkit to elogind.

Thanks, I'll see about trying to get it done this weekend.

It seems that consolekit is deprecated and maybe on its way out. (?)

See https://bugs.devuan.org/db/42/425.html

Received: (at submit) by bugs.devuan.org; 23 Apr 2020 21:30:02 +0000
Return-Path:
Delivered-To: devuanbugs@dyne.org
--- snip ---
Package: policykit-1
Version: 0.105-25+devuan8
policykit-1 dependency is declared as "logind" instead of "elogind", forcing to use de deprecated (no buster yet) consolekit. <- my highlighting

Thanks a lot for your input.

Cheers,

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (dice) — Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:59:25 +0000

I think you will be ok upgrading from consolkit to elogind.

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (Altoid) — Sat, 20 Feb 2021 12:37:39 +0000

Hello:

dice wrote:

Looks like you have backintime-qt4 installed ??

Indeed ... 8^/
What a (quite embarrassed) dick!

Sorry for the slip-up, that's what happens with not enough coffee after a bad night's sleep.

Yes, that's quite evidently backintime-qt4.

Here's all the qt I found:

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i installed | grep -i qt

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

backintime-qt4/stable,stable,now 1.1.24-0.1 all [installed]
libdbusmenu-qt5-2/stable,now 0.9.3+16.04.20160218-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libphonon4qt5-4/stable,now 4:4.10.2-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-dbus/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-declarative/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-designer/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-help/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-network/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-script/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-scripttools/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-sql-mysql/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-sql/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-svg/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-test/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-xml/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-xmlpatterns/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5core5a/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5dbus5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5gui5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5network5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5opengl5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5positioning5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5printsupport5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5qml5/stable,now 5.11.3-4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5quick5/stable,now 5.11.3-4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5sensors5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5svg5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5texttospeech5/stable,now 5.11.3-3 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5waylandclient5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5waylandcompositor5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5webchannel5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5webkit5/stable,now 5.212.0~alpha2-21 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5widgets5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5x11extras5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5xml5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqtassistantclient4/stable,now 4.6.3-7+b1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqtcore4/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqtdbus4/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqtgui4/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqwt-qt5-6/stable,now 6.1.4-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
phonon4qt5-backend-vlc/stable,now 0.10.2-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
phonon4qt5/stable,now 4:4.10.2-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
pinentry-qt/stable,now 1.1.0-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
python-qt4/stable,now 4.12.1+dfsg-2+b1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
python3-dbus.mainloop.qt/stable,now 4.12.1+dfsg-2+b1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
python3-pyqt4/stable,now 4.12.1+dfsg-2+b1 amd64 [installed]
qt-at-spi/stable,now 0.4.0-9 amd64 [installed,automatic]
qt5-gtk-platformtheme/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
qtchooser/stable,now 66-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
qtcore4-l10n/stable,stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 all [installed,automatic]
qttranslations5-l10n/stable,stable,now 5.11.3-2 all [installed,automatic]
qtwayland5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
vlc-plugin-qt/stable,stable-security,now 3.0.12-0+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
groucho@devuan:~$

But ...
Where did qtwayland5 come from?

groucho@devuan:~$ aptitude why qtwayland5
i   virtualbox-6.1 Depends  libqt5gui5 (>= 5.4.0)
i A libqt5gui5     Suggests qtwayland5           
groucho@devuan:~$

Suggests should be off by default.

dice wrote:

Do you use any kde apps?

Seems not ...

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i installed | grep -i kde

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

libblockdev-crypto2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-fs2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-loop2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-part-err2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-part2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-swap2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-utils2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
groucho@devuan:~$

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

Re: [Solved] libpolkit-qt-5-1-1 kept back after ASCII --> Beowulf upgrade

dummy@example.com (dice) — Sat, 20 Feb 2021 11:48:54 +0000

Altoid wrote:

Hello:
dice wrote:
... dont use backintime.
... see what happens when i install backintime.
Thanks.
dice wrote:
... elogind is the preferred choice over consolekit?
Don't know.
dice wrote:
... using the lxqt desktop maybe?
No, the XFCE that came by default with ASCII
groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i installed | grep xfce4

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
--- snip ---
xfce4/stable,stable,now 4.12.5 all [installed]
groucho@devuan:~$ 
dice wrote:
... no issues installing and using backintime-qt4 ...
Mine is not Qt:
groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i installed | grep backintime

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

backintime-common/stable,stable,now 1.1.24-0.1 all [installed,automatic]
backintime-qt4/stable,stable,now 1.1.24-0.1 all [installed]
groucho@devuan:~$ 
Thanks for your input.
Cheers,
A.

Looks like you have backintime-qt4 installed ??

Do you use any kde apps ?