Capitol Stormed by Protestors! Trump's Twitter Suspended!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suo7bZiDZU8

read between the lines people.

Dutch_Master wrote:

I'll just re-iterate myself then:

Dutch_Master wrote:

"Freedom of speech" doesn't mean you can say absolutely anything, anywhere, anytime. Your "freedom of speech" ends where it encroaches on freedoms of others. Disagreeing is fine, as long as it remains respectful and civil. These principles of civilisation have been trampled by certain groups and individuals in the past and exactly that is now being addressed.

Take particular note of that first sentence, then contemplate on the 2nd. That's the core of civilisation in a nutshell.

Kind of hard to be civil when people are just straight up in denial about things that are facts...

That being said, I might have been too harsh. 

I just really, detest cult like thinking akin to trumplicans, fascists, neo nazis and denialists...

At some point people who have team mentality, should abandon their team... when your side threatens violence like trumplicans do, its time to eject. If you know what I mean... or to put it more simply...   escape that sinking ship before you go under.

;<)

So are you saying all those millions of people who voted for trump in the usa are akin to fascists and neo nazis?

edit: oh and of course the democrats are shining beacons of peace and harmony!

https://www.dailywire.com/news/viral-vi … harassment

I'll just re-iterate myself then:

Dutch_Master wrote:

"Freedom of speech" doesn't mean you can say absolutely anything, anywhere, anytime. Your "freedom of speech" ends where it encroaches on freedoms of others. Disagreeing is fine, as long as it remains respectful and civil. These principles of civilisation have been trampled by certain groups and individuals in the past and exactly that is now being addressed.

Take particular note of that first sentence, then contemplate on the 2nd. That's the core of civilisation in a nutshell.

Kind of hard to be civil when people are just straight up in denial about things that are facts...

That being said, I might have been too harsh. 

I just really, detest cult like thinking akin to trumplicans, fascists, neo nazis and denialists...

At some point people who have team mentality, should abandon their team... when your side threatens violence like trumplicans do, its time to eject. If you know what I mean... or to put it more simply...   escape that sinking ship before you go under.

;<)

Take particular note of that first sentence, then contemplate on the 2nd. That's the core of civilisation in a nutshell.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

dice wrote:

the underlying message is quite evident.

Not for me, would you mind explaining your opinion further? TIA.

It just seems to me that with these giant platforms like mozilla,twitter and facebook, that one can be branded evil white nazi supremacists when in fact the opposite could be true and without evidence to contrary they post heresay as in the mozilla article and elsewhere in the mainstream media.

the rampant use of the internet to foment violence and hate, and reinforce white supremacy is about more than any one personality. Donald Trump is certainly not the first politician to exploit the architecture of the internet in this way

^ The article needs to back that up in regards to trumps twitters imo.

From what ive read and seen so far it looked very staged this so called "insurrection". A real coup would have involved storming the building with weopens and a clear objective, the way it looked from what they show on the mainstream media was a bunch of usefull idiots being useful idiots. I do agree free speech has its limits but if only twitter and facebook and the rest lived up to that on a daily basis.

You forget, we are talking about donald trump...  he doesn't know how to be sneaky. He is good at manipulation, bad at everything else...

Just a side note, mozilla should rot for letting itself be bribed by google so many times and for  accepting their money and for accepting webextensions as their new model... etc... but NOT for the reasons you and ron are mentioning.

There's a lot of bullshit responses in this thread. The real threat here are the ones who get to decide what is (so called) hate speech and what isn't. This IS a threat to free speech.

Oh hush up man, 

hate speech isn't free speech man, you know that trump told his supporters to march on the capital and that he encouraged violence. This isn't the first time, won't be the last.

The real threat is being talked about and its called extremism.

trump supporters are friggin extremists. Even the corporate democrats aren't this evil, hell even the republicans in power aren't this evil, they just cowards. 

Don't give me that "those aren't the droids you are looking for"

That isn't logical in this case and we both know it.

I don't like to be so crass about this, but extremism must be exposed.

PS, I detest both sides but especially corporate rulers and effing fascists.

dice wrote:

the underlying message is quite evident.

Not for me, would you mind explaining your opinion further? TIA.

It just seems to me that with these giant platforms like mozilla,twitter and facebook, that one can be branded evil white nazi supremacists when in fact the opposite could be true and without evidence to contrary they post heresay as in the mozilla article and elsewhere in the mainstream media.

^ The article needs to back that up in regards to trumps twitters imo.

From what ive read and seen so far it looked very staged this so called "insurrection". A real coup would have involved storming the building with weopens and a clear objective, the way it looked from what they show on the mainstream media was a bunch of usefull idiots being useful idiots. I do agree free speech has its limits but if only twitter and facebook and the rest lived up to that on a daily basis.

My freedom  ends where yours begins, aka, if you try to restrict someone's freedom or violate someones freedom especially for no justifiable reason... that is wrong.

BLM protesters would have been mowed down with gunfire if they tried to incite insurrection. The confederates /nazi/trump supporters should have had the same treatment.

Equality and justice should be more important than stupid issues like skin color, or race, or other such foolishness...

That all being said, I think firefox is going to die, she has been firing people working on firefox...

So its plausible that may happen.

And yes, your freedom ends when it encroaches on someone else's freedom.

the underlying message is quite evident.

Not for me, would you mind explaining your opinion further? TIA.

As this subject has the potential to explode I'd prefer to keep it at that.