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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24035#p24035</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... just a python script so you can fudge an &quot;installation&quot; ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Right, I&#039;ll get to it.<br />Thanks a lot !&#160; &#160;8^ )</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2020 18:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... use <a href="https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem" rel="nofollow">ps_mem</a> to analyse per-application memory ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Is there a *.deb package available for ASCII?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No but it&#039;s just a python script so you can fudge an &quot;installation&quot; with</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>mkdir -p ~/git &amp;&amp; cd ~/git
git clone https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem
mkdir ~/bin
cp ps_mem/ps_mem.py ~/bin/ps-mem
chmod +x ~/bin/ps-mem</code></pre></div><p>^ That assumes the <span class="bbc">git</span> package is installed and that <span class="bbc">~/bin</span> is listed in <span class="bbc">$PATH</span> (or add it to <span class="bbc">/usr/local/bin/</span> for system-wide access).</p><p>Once it&#039;s all set up just call the script to run it:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>ps-mem</code></pre></div><p>Alternatively just run the script directly from the git repository without copying it:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>cd ~/git/ps_mem
./ps_mem.py</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2020 16:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24010#p24010</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... use <a href="https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem" rel="nofollow">ps_mem</a> to analyse per-application memory ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Is there a *.deb package available for ASCII?<br />Can&#039;t seem to find it.</p><p>TIA,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 21:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ExtremistCamel wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I&#039;ve tested TDE with ExeGNU, Q4OS and PCLinuxOS recently and they all use a similar amount of RAM.</p><p>ExeGNU and PCLinuxOS use around 230-240MB and Q4OS uses ~260MB (didn&#039;t use swap on any of them). They all use Trinity DE and Trinity Windows Manager so they&#039;re pretty much identical. Only Q4OS uses systemd. </p><p>Is it possible that it&#039;s a new install and maybe you installed other programs which were running on the other distros? Fotoxx could rely on some non-free service or something that&#039;s not present in Devuan but that&#039;s just a guess. Strange.</p><p>Also I&#039;ve discovered ExeGNU very recently and the next day while searching for it I found your article, it was helpful and I found this forum so thanks for that davidb. I think its a very usable truly free/open distribution and wonder why it has so little coverage.</p><p>Just in case you don&#039;t know there is an email to contact the developer info@exegnulinux.net which is listed on the sourceforge site you could try that. There is a 32bit beowulf iso under testing so I don&#039;t know why there hasn&#039;t been a new release.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Hey, thanks!&#160; I&#039;m glad you found the review useful.&#160; Just my way of trying to bring more attention to a well deserved project.</p><p>As for the Fotoxx thing, yes, I wasn&#039;t sure what the difference was and it could be just because Exe is new and &quot;fresh&quot; on my system with nothing else getting in the way and hogging up resources.&#160; Maybe it&#039;s a pulseaudio thing.&#160; We&#039;ll see as time goes on.&#160; It was just a nice little bonus, there!</p><p>I didn&#039;t look in under Testing, on SourceForge.&#160; So, perhaps it&#039;s just Dave finding enough time in his schedule to accomplish everything he wants to.&#160; In the meantime, however, installing ASCII and doing a system update has worked just fine.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (davidb)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve tested TDE with ExeGNU, Q4OS and PCLinuxOS recently and they all use a similar amount of RAM.</p><p>ExeGNU and PCLinuxOS use around 230-240MB and Q4OS uses ~260MB (didn&#039;t use swap on any of them). They all use Trinity DE and Trinity Windows Manager so they&#039;re pretty much identical. Only Q4OS uses systemd. </p><p>Is it possible that it&#039;s a new install and maybe you installed other programs which were running on the other distros? Fotoxx could rely on some non-free service or something that&#039;s not present in Devuan but that&#039;s just a guess. Strange.</p><p>Also I&#039;ve discovered ExeGNU very recently and the next day while searching for it I found your article, it was helpful and I found this forum so thanks for that davidb. I think its a very usable truly free/open distribution and wonder why it has so little coverage.</p><p>Just in case you don&#039;t know there is an email to contact the developer info@exegnulinux.net which is listed on the sourceforge site you could try that. There is a 32bit beowulf iso under testing so I don&#039;t know why there hasn&#039;t been a new release.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 20:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23993#p23993</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I like to use <a href="https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem" rel="nofollow">ps_mem</a> to analyse per-application memory usage.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, systemd... I&#039;ll remember that.</p><p>free -ht reports:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           979M        243M        309M         71M        426M        528M
Swap:          255M         68M        187M
Total:         1.2G        311M        497M</code></pre></div><p>When I get around to it, I&#039;ll check and see what RAM is available when running Q4OS.&#160; I just thought maybe not having systemd is a benefit on many levels.&#160; Up until finding Exe and Devuan, I never really payed much attention to what service manager my system used.&#160; I was impressed that Fotoxx wasn&#039;t complaining about low RAM for the first time in the nine years I&#039;ve used this laptop.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>davidb wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>could this change in what I&#039;m used to seeing be a result of my system no longer relying on SystemD?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Unlikely, systemd (not &quot;SystemD&quot; btw) is a total memory hog but it only consumes a few MiB more than sysvinit.</p><p>Have you tried Debian with something like dwm? The desktop environment will make much more difference in respect of RAM usage.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23986#p23986</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>To ask the obvious question, how much RAM and swap space has your new laptop got? Run <span class="bbc">free -ht</span> on it to find out (and on your old one to see the difference).</p><p>Chris</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not sure if this is the right place to ask this, so if the Admins need to move this topic somewhere else, then I understand.</p><p>I&#039;ve used several Linux distros on my Lenovo T-61 with 1GB of RAM, which includes PCLinuxOS, Elementary, Q4OS and now ExeGNU/Linux (which of course is a derivative of Devuan) .&#160; And, throughout all of these versions of Linux, when ever I fired up Fotoxx (one of my favorite photo editors), it always complained about having &quot;low RAM&quot; and that it&#039;s performance may be slowed.</p><p>But, today I got around to installing Fotoxx on my new Exe/Trinity desktop and I saw no low RAM warning.&#160; I was a little surprised.&#160; I don&#039;t know a lot about this sort of thing, but could this change in what I&#039;m used to seeing be a result of my system no longer relying on SystemD?&#160; That&#039;s about the only major difference that comes to mind, as I&#039;ve used TDE with Q4OS, as well as PCLinuxOS but still got that low RAM warning.</p><p>Any thoughts on this?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 03:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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