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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I would post an update... </p><p>After a few more reboots, it seems my login delay went away. <br />NOTE: I did not install elogind, and I didn&#039;t change my xorg.conf file.&#160; I really didn&#039;t change anything trying to resolve it.<br />I may look into these things if the issue comes back, but for now I am good.</p><p>In fact, really good!</p><p>I just noticed that with my base desktop session (3 terminals, total of 9 terminal tabs) and my browser (palemoon) running with just this forum, I am using &lt; 1GB of RAM.</p><p>Here are my top ten from ps_mem.py</p><p> 13.9 MiB +&#160; &#160;1.3 MiB =&#160; 15.2 MiB&#160; &#160; panel-1-whisker<br /> 16.0 MiB + 774.5 KiB =&#160; 16.7 MiB&#160; &#160; redshift-gtk<br /> 13.8 MiB +&#160; &#160;4.5 MiB =&#160; 18.3 MiB&#160; &#160; qasmixer<br /> 15.8 MiB +&#160; &#160;3.9 MiB =&#160; 19.7 MiB&#160; &#160; flameshot<br /> 18.4 MiB +&#160; &#160;4.2 MiB =&#160; 22.7 MiB&#160; &#160; Thunar<br /> 22.5 MiB +&#160; &#160;3.2 MiB =&#160; 25.7 MiB&#160; &#160; xfce4-terminal<br /> 27.3 MiB +&#160; &#160;2.0 MiB =&#160; 29.3 MiB&#160; &#160; gerbera<br /> 30.3 MiB +&#160; &#160;8.6 MiB =&#160; 38.9 MiB&#160; &#160; xfdesktop<br /> 38.8 MiB +&#160; 10.5 MiB =&#160; 49.3 MiB&#160; &#160; Xorg<br />307.4 MiB +&#160; &#160;3.8 MiB = 311.2 MiB&#160; &#160; palemoon<br />---------------------------------<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 710.2 MiB<br />=============</p><p>Without the browser running it was at 441.5MiB.&#160; Very pleased about that.<br />I use XFCE because I prefer it. Everyone talks about how it is great for old computers with low resources, which is certainly true.&#160; But it&#039;s not all just XFCE though, because Devuan certainly has something to do with that as well.&#160; 49MB for Xorg seems to be about 1/2 of what I have seen of other XFCE based distros.&#160; Maybe they just come with lots of things enabled by default.&#160; Not trying to tweak out every bit of memory, just happy with the way Devuan performs.</p><p>FYI, since I mentioned serviio previously, I thought I&#039;d add that gerbera made the list because the newest version of serviio wasn&#039;t recognized by some of my devices, and after some troubleshooting I decided to install gerbera (another dlna server) alongside it as a test.&#160; It is lighter weight, doesn&#039;t use java, and everything could see it.&#160; So I&#039;m using that now, and serviio has been disabled.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: My Upgrade from ascii to beowulf ... a few issues [all resolved]]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>mweishaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>you&#039;re saying I don&#039;t need an xorg.conf, and I do need elogind?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, that&#039;s right. I can&#039;t confirm anything about NVIDIA personally (I wouldn&#039;t give money to those bastards) but I know that elogind is needed.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Well, I haven&#039;t bought a new video card... ever.&#160; So technically Nvidia didn&#039;t get my money.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />Now cards are so huge I had to get something that would fit in my mini tower.&#160; Nvidia drivers are quite a PITA sometimes.&#160; </p><p>Interesting about elogind.&#160; Prior to doing my upgrade, I created a vm with a base install of ascii, and another with a base install of beowulf. Then I did a dist-upgrade on ascii so it&#039;s on beowulf now.&#160; The ascii-upgraded one doesn&#039;t have elogind installed, but the beowulf-install one does.</p><p>So I would expect that elogind isn&#039;t required, as my system is operating without it.&#160; But it does seem that I can install it without much risk since a fresh install uses it.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>mweishaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I swear, sometimes I feel ancient with newer distros</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The only constant is change <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Definitely.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2020 15:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mweishaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>you&#039;re saying I don&#039;t need an xorg.conf, and I do need elogind?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, that&#039;s right. I can&#039;t confirm anything about NVIDIA personally (I wouldn&#039;t give money to those bastards) but I know that elogind is needed.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>mweishaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I swear, sometimes I feel ancient with newer distros</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The only constant is change <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2020 10:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>sooo, you&#039;re saying I don&#039;t need an xorg.conf, and I do need elogind?</p><p>Cripes....I swear, sometimes I feel ancient with newer distros.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/neutral.png" width="15" height="15" alt="neutral" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2020 23:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mweishaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I am not sure I understand your comment about not needing an xorg.conf file.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I mean that you don&#039;t need an xorg.conf file. The NVIDIA proprietary drivers are now detected and autoconfigured by the X server.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>mweishaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>elogind is installed</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>weishaar@devuan:~$ dpkg -l | grep elogind
rc  elogind                                234.4-2                                     amd64        user, seat and session management daemon
rc  libpam-elogind:amd64                   234.4-2                                     amd64        elogind PAM module</code></pre></div></div></blockquote></div><p>Not according to that output — <span class="bbc">rc</span> indicates that the package is not installed but the configuration files are.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2020 23:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure I understand your comment about not needing an xorg.conf file.</p><p>elogind is installed</p><p>weishaar@devuan:~$ dpkg -l | grep elogind<br />rc&#160; elogind&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 234.4-2&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;amd64&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; user, seat and session management daemon<br />rc&#160; libpam-elogind:amd64&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;234.4-2&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;amd64&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; elogind PAM module</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2020 23:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mweishaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Using &quot;X -configure&quot; gave me what looked like a good xorg.conf file, but then X wouldn&#039;t start claiming the number of screens didn&#039;t match my hardware.&#160; I copied over the xorg.conf file that I had backed up before the upgrade, and all was good with X.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You shouldn&#039;t need an X.Org configuration file at all any more, even if you&#039;re using the proprietary NVIDIA drivers.</p><p>In respect of your desktop delay, please confirm that elogind is installed.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2020 20:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Dell Optiplex 7010, i5-3570, 8GB ram, Nvidia GTX 750, dual monitors, Samsung 250GB SSD + several TB w/spinning drives<br />Devuan Ascii XFCE</p><p>So I finally took the plunge and upgraded from ascii to beowulf.&#160; First off - I still remember doing upgrades back on RedHat 5.1, so I&#039;ve been doing this a while.&#160; Linux upgrades sure have come a long way!</p><p>My first issue was that I had held back all nvidia packages, so I had to take those off hold before I could get dist-upgrade to start.&#160; Not a problem really, but a hurdle.</p><p>==============<br /><strong>FIXED ISSUES </strong>(worth mentioning):<br />dist-upgrade went fine, no real surprises until the end.&#160; There was some issue with the nvidia driver.&#160; A reboot might fix it.&#160; It did not.<br />No X server.&#160; Tried quite a few things to get it going, I had part of driver 390 installed and part of 418.&#160; I ended up uninstalling all the nvidia drivers, and then trying nouveau.&#160; No go.&#160; So reinstalled only the latest nvidia.&#160; Using &quot;X -configure&quot; gave me what looked like a good xorg.conf file, but then X wouldn&#039;t start claiming the number of screens didn&#039;t match my hardware.&#160; I copied over the xorg.conf file that I had backed up before the upgrade, and all was good with X.</p><p>Next issue was slim.&#160; It was gone.&#160; I had done the auto-cleanup per the instructions, so maybe that got rid of it?!&#160; Installed it, then I was back up and running in XFCE.&#160; </p><p>Pulseaudio wasn&#039;t running.&#160; Long story short... I fixed it by launching pulseaudio via autostart and disabling start-pulseaudio-x11 which didn&#039;t seem to be working.&#160; Then I found the right answer in the release notes. D&#039;oh!&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>sendmail was taking 60 seconds to start on boot.&#160; I know I had seen this in the distant past and fixed it.&#160; Just needed to update my hosts file appropriately to have the non-fully-qualified hostname as the first line.&#160; Which I already had in ascii and it didn&#039;t change, just needed to change the format a little. <br />(ascii) 127.0.0.1&#160; &#160; localhost ip4-localhost ip4-loopback<br />(beowulf) 127.0.0.1&#160; &#160; devuan devuan.localdomain </p><p>I run serviio as a dlna server.&#160; It wasn&#039;t working anymore.&#160; Messed around with it a bit, then just installed the latest version and default-jre (missing) and it&#039;s back.</p><p>Was getting an error in syslog from console-kit-daemon about cgmanager not running.&#160; It wasn&#039;t installed, so I installed it.</p><p>VLC was gone, as was Handbrake.&#160; Re-installed them.</p><p>==============<br /><strong>UNSOLVED ISSUE:</strong><br />I see a 30 second delay before the desktop comes up.&#160; Here is the relevant portion from syslog:<br />...<br />Jul&#160; 4 10:24:24 devuan avahi-daemon[2001]: Server startup complete. Host name is devuan.local. Local service cookie is 2967303762.<br />Jul&#160; 4 10:24:26 devuan kernel: [&#160; &#160;13.476220] resource sanity check: requesting [mem 0x000e0000-0x000fffff], which spans more than PCI Bus 0000:00 [mem 0x000e0000-0x000e3fff window]<br />Jul&#160; 4 10:24:26 devuan kernel: [&#160; &#160;13.476373] caller _nv029707rm+0x58/0x90 [nvidia] mapping multiple BARs<br />Jul&#160; 4 10:24:26 devuan kernel: [&#160; &#160;13.770321] resource sanity check: requesting [mem 0x000c0000-0x000fffff], which spans more than PCI Bus 0000:00 [mem 0x000d4000-0x000d7fff window]<br />Jul&#160; 4 10:24:26 devuan kernel: [&#160; &#160;13.770476] caller _nv000935rm+0x1bf/0x1f0 [nvidia] mapping multiple BARs</p><p>**** Note the 33 second delay here.&#160; Did some googling, but no real answer yet.</p><p>Jul&#160; 4 10:24:59 devuan dbus-daemon[1976]: [system] Activating service name=&#039;org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit&#039; requested by &#039;:1.7&#039; (uid=0 pid=2268 comm=&quot;/usr/bin/slim -d &quot;) (using servicehelper)<br />Jul&#160; 4 10:24:59 devuan dbus-daemon[1976]: [system] Activating service name=&#039;org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1&#039; requested by &#039;:1.8&#039; (uid=0 pid=2606 comm=&quot;/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon &quot;) (using servicehelper)<br />...</p><p>==============</p><p>Kind of annoying, but I honestly restart my machine every couple of months, so not a huge deal.<br />Other than these few hurdles, everything seems to be running great.&#160; Somehow, memory usage is even lower than it was on ascii.&#160; &#160;I didn&#039;t take a &quot;before&quot; snapshot, but I know it&#039;s lower by quite a bit.<br />&#160; <br />Right now as I type this I am only using 1.5 GiB of RAM !&#160; Here are the top 10 users from ps_mem.py</p><p>12.6 MiB +&#160; &#160;3.1 MiB =&#160; 15.7 MiB&#160; &#160; xfce4-panel<br /> 17.6 MiB + 943.5 KiB =&#160; 18.5 MiB&#160; &#160; libvirtd<br /> 17.5 MiB +&#160; &#160;3.3 MiB =&#160; 20.8 MiB&#160; &#160; xfce4-terminal&#160; &#160;(3 terminals with 4 tabs in each)<br /> 14.2 MiB +&#160; &#160;9.1 MiB =&#160; 23.3 MiB&#160; &#160; flameshot<br /> 20.9 MiB +&#160; &#160;2.4 MiB =&#160; 23.3 MiB&#160; &#160; redshift-gtk<br /> 14.5 MiB +&#160; &#160;9.6 MiB =&#160; 24.1 MiB&#160; &#160; qasmixer<br /> 43.9 MiB +&#160; 19.2 MiB =&#160; 63.1 MiB&#160; &#160; Xorg<br /> 53.4 MiB +&#160; 17.2 MiB =&#160; 70.6 MiB&#160; &#160; xfdesktop<br />386.1 MiB + 334.5 KiB = 386.4 MiB&#160; &#160; java<br />690.9 MiB +&#160; &#160;5.4 MiB = 696.3 MiB&#160; &#160; palemoon&#160; &#160;(7 tabs open)<br />---------------------------------<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 1.5 GiB&#160; &#160;<img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/cool.png" width="15" height="15" alt="cool" /></p><p>I may run into a few more things here and there that aren&#039;t quite right, but I shouldn&#039;t have any issues resolving them.<br />Overall, Beowulf gets an A from me!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2020 17:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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